this jace is much better designed than the other ones. the first jace had an ultimate that was never used. JTMS was broken and should never of had 4 abilities. the third jace had abilities that weren't really intuitive (lazy design).
this jace on the other hand is clearly for multiplayer, and it performs well in that area. the abilities are interesting and not overpowered. I applaud WotC.
Posted By:
Arachibutyrophobia
(9/28/2012 7:29:11 PM)
His +1 is cumber stone.
His -2 is essentially a weaker Fact or Fiction.
I can't put my finger on his ultimate, but I'm pretty sure there's a card like it.
I'm not a big fan of him right now, but he could really surprise me. Tokens and small attacking thingy's were popular in Innistrad, and burn seems to have lost a lot of its touch in this block.
I'm selling mine right away when I get it, mind you.
Posted By:
Ferlord
(9/25/2012 9:41:13 PM)
Guys, what the hell are you talking about? This Jace is totally fine, and I enjoy playing him. No, he doesn't make your opponent mill 10, no he doesn't exile your opponent's libraries, but that's not his purpose. I play him in an Esper control deck and I've never been unhappy to topdeck him or have him in my opening hand. If he's not what you were looking to draw, just slap him down and do a mini fact or fiction. Opponent is playing Lingering Souls? -1/-0. That first ability really isn't bad, considering if they swing with 5 2/2s they become 5 1/2s, so you take 5 damage as opposed to 10. Not to mention he hoses Boros' Assemble the Legion, and there's another way he interacts with creatures, he draws them off your back! In my opinion, if they attack him with 1/3rd of their creatures to kill him, that's 1/3 of the damage I could've taken prevented by playing him. And while I agree you'll probably never use his ultimate in an actual standard game (at least I haven't yet), his "Ponder/FoF"... (see all)
Posted By:
conmandude
(5/19/2013 11:03:28 PM)
Agreed. Hood back now, please. I want a mysterious blue guy, not a white super hero dressed in blue, seriously.
Posted By:
Mephy.
(12/19/2012 5:41:51 PM)
This + Gideon Jura in modern?
Posted By:
Faelivri
(8/1/2013 5:40:41 AM)
this + Curse of Death's Hold is just crippling.
watch when dimir rolls around and makes it even worse
Posted By:
dontmess17
(9/25/2012 8:01:23 PM)
Good card, not going to break any thing but always a nice one of, I like the art except his face, he looks too much like he belongs in a boy band...
Posted By:
KnexWiz
(10/25/2012 10:45:33 PM)
I love how in the original Jace Beleren and Mind Sculptor, he looks like a dark mysterious mage who could kill you with a magic bolt or erase your mind at any time he felt like and now he's coming out of Ravnica with hair flowing in the wind like he's in the New 52.
Growing up sucks
Posted By:
CammyWhite
(9/25/2012 6:18:38 PM)
Let's take a look at Jace's second ability:
If your opponent splits the piles really well, you get the best card out of 3 draws.
If your opponent makes a mistake, you get the 2 best cards out of 3 draws.
Now here's the thing:
Jace's second ability can be used twice over two turns (more if you stall the game and power him up with the +1 ability). This strategy seems very solid.
Add the other abilities; the fact that Jace powers-up by shutting down infinite sized 1/1 armies is incredible; especially since the fixed artifact Cumber Stone was also 4 mana to do the same thing, but that card didn't have all these other options!
If the game gets stalled for too long, Jace has his ultimate. Last time I checked, Blue was more than happy to stall the game with white cards that use Detain or Supreme Verdict.
Posted By:
ConsoleCleric
(10/12/2012 6:20:06 AM)
@Lash_of_Dragonbreath
You're either underestimating this card, or overestimating Chandra Ablaze, or both. Chandra Ablaze was weak because it costed 6 CMC, and for that much, you're really looking for something that immediately contributes to winning the game. She just didn't do enough for her cost. Jace, Architect of Thought costs 4 CMC. The difference is night and day. I suspect that if Chandra Ablaze were to cost 4 CMC, she would be a quite popular and powerful planeswalker, instead of merely being a casual card.
Posted By:
DeaTh-ShiNoBi
(10/9/2012 9:51:35 PM)