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HOLY COW!! Bow to the Lord of Innistrad!
Posted By: SgtSwaggr (1/26/2012 6:18:50 PM)
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"Hey vampires I know your hungry and all but I got to make these spririt tokens +1/0 for a while until we even you out. Nothing personal, I'll party with you again after but for now you got to pay for feasting to much. You've been served" Sorin

Freaking AWESOME CARD!!!!
Posted By: NinaNinja (1/27/2012 9:33:26 AM)
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The card I like to combo better with than doubling season is Gilder Bairn. Cheaper card to get a hold of (like a tenth of the cost) and basically does the same thing as far as Sorin is concerned, however doubling season leaves it with one loyalty counter as Sorin kills himself while the Bairn keeps two. Six of one half dozen...Sorins make me happy.
Posted By: JsGiant (2/1/2012 2:49:43 PM)
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For people complaining about the price: wait. Liliana cost the same, she's below $30, so CALM THE EF DOWN!
Posted By: PcvsApple (2/2/2012 9:54:31 PM)
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what luck.. I bought a $2 mini-pack at the store tonight, first time I've bough a sealed pack in a decade or more, and got Sorin. Even better, he fits nicely into my RWB commander deck with Kaervek the Merciless, et al.
Posted By: InDesignKat (2/3/2012 11:29:13 PM)
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Got 2 during launch and one in my prize, I have to say hes pretty awesome. I am not one to buy a 50$ card though, but having played 2 of them I found them to be really really good at being able to keep himself alive, especially considering my deck was kinda slow to begin with. I like everything about him except I wish the emblem also gave toughness... But I also don't think its needed to make him too overpowered. Great card and since I have enough, I will probably make a token deck with him included. But its good to know his price won't remain high too long, give it some time. 5/5 for his flexibility on aggro and defense, along with his sexy ultimate.
Posted By: Wasret (2/4/2012 1:21:15 AM)
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Even without being a judge, I can give you a ruling about a potential Infinate Combo with Experiment Kraj.

It doesn't work.

306.5. Loyalty is a characteristic only planeswalkers have.

Experiment Kraj is not a planeswalker, it can not have loyalty counters placed on it, and can never pay the activation cost of a planeswalker ability.

@UsagiYojimbo

306.5c The loyalty of a planeswalker on the battlefield is equal to the number of loyalty counters on it.

Again, only planeswalkers have loyalty, this over-rides any other rule about paying loyalty on a permanent to activate an ability. Because no other permanents than planeswalkers can have loyalty value recognised by the game. A non-planeswalker permanent may well have loyalty counters on it, but the game does not recognise them as loyalty you can use.

This is a very deliberate wording, to explicitly prevent any ability copying card from using planewalker abilities. Other use of permanent is probably in case they do deci... (see all)
Posted By: JayBlanc (2/4/2012 4:04:28 AM)
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Ok so the kraj/apron combo for one isn't possible, and for two requires you to run 4 colors.... If you want to infinite combo there are MUCH better and simpler combos out there...
Posted By: Phoenix2222 (2/4/2012 12:54:30 PM)
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man this is a good card, pricey, but could end up dominating tournaments. first time i read it, i missed the other planes walkers part, would be sick if it could target its self. o well.
Posted By: fatmancory (2/4/2012 8:40:31 PM)
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EDIT2: My hypothesis is now somewhat further validated by an article from DailyMTG, the deck in question uses Quicksilver Elemental, but I don't see a difference in the nature of the interaction, as it's still a creature gaining Planeswalker abilities.

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ftl/181

EDIT1: @Jayblanc: Okay, I totally get that loyalty is a characteristic only Planeswalkers have, but I don't think that means what you think it means. I don't see how you need to have the Loyalty characteristic to activate a Loyalty ability you have.

We all agree Kraj gets the ability right? Well rule 606.4 clearly states that only "cost to activate a loyalty ability of a permanent is to put on or remove from that permanent a certain number of loyalty counters, as shown by the loyalty symbol in the ability‘s cost," not the reduction of a loyalty value or anything like that. How could what you say be true if there is an explicit ref... (see all)
Posted By: UsagiYojimbo (2/9/2012 8:11:21 AM)
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