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Fantastic in modern with x4 gemstone caverns.
Posted By: TheWrathofShane (9/6/2012 11:29:50 AM)


perfect for pox..
this takes care of pox decks top deck problems..

everything about this card is beautiful..

i run 4 in my mono black..
Posted By: zenitramleirdag (9/24/2012 11:03:35 PM)


Still say the original is better. Much more mana but then it has a tutor ability.
Posted By: wholelottalove (10/1/2012 7:31:36 AM)


can you trigger her plus one and then discard a creature as your choice and also pump lotleth troll at the same time if he's in play?
Posted By: ravens8856 (10/15/2012 11:08:38 PM)


@Lifegainwithbite, where did you get that he was generalizing. Last time I checked, he talks about a b!tch. You know, no? I think we can all relate with @h8yuns' furry for uncontrolled recklessness. And as far as I'm concerned when she enters the battlefield, she really is a b!tch to deal with. Great card. 4.5/5
Posted By: CG1248 (4/9/2013 2:48:56 PM)


yeah, I'd totally tap that. (searches Gatherer for things that tap Planeswalkers)

(2 years later: Ral Zarek taps her and untaps himself. oh yeah. ;D)

Case File: Liliana Vess, A Vorthos Dissertation-- Part One
Lorywn-- Liliana Introduced. Demonic debt hinted at. Shards of Alara-- Nicol Bolas returns. Malfegor killed and eliminated as candidate for one of Liliana's Demon Masters. Agents of Artifice-- Liliana trades Demonic Debt for Bolas Debt, except that Bolas isn't even sure he can keep his promise, and it's not like he ever intended to anyway. I conclude they are about equal, that Liliana and Bolas could do it together, and that as Black-aligned Planeswalkers that both have a love of pacts, deceit, and betrayal, the idea of using basically White strategy (alliance) is insane. We know these are the Top Dawg Demons because Bolas fears their combined power.

Curse of the Chain Veil (cance... (see all)
Posted By: DarthParallax (4/24/2013 5:25:57 PM)


3/20/2012 11:37:56 AM
Yay! Chainer's Edict on a modified stick
also the first half of Strongarm Tactics or a modified Necrogen Mists

Wow, I don't know what about my comment got a rating of 2.625 but, nevertheless...

Barren Glory? I target myself with the ultimate and sacrifice everything but Barren Glory.
Posted By: raptorman333 (1/28/2014 6:21:40 AM)


I love her. Drop her on turn 3 and +1 your Vengeful Pharoah and you've got free removal each turn that she lives, as well as a way to keep their stored cards down. That's some attrition I can live with. She still has her -2 ability in case you absolutely can't deal with one of their creatures, due to Hexproof or whatnot.

And that +6... <3
Posted By: NegFactor (9/23/2011 3:11:55 PM)


Finally a PLAYABLE black planeswalker!
Posted By: Raikel (9/25/2011 9:29:11 AM)


Managed to pull this Liliana in my first booster, surprisingly.
Thankfully, for the low mana cost, I managed to bring her out relatively early in the game with Diabolical Tutor.
Posted By: Anna_Thema (10/1/2011 8:22:57 AM)


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@2pcsofcandy: perhaps her marks are not glowing because she's finally found a way to get around her dark deal with the demons, or at least one of them? After all, that IS why she's in Innistrad, to hunt down, or find a weapon to kill one of the three demons ruling her. If I'm not mistaken, Griselbrand, the demon who killed Avacyn, is one of the demons Liliana had a pact with. Can anyone confirm this?

Or alternatively, her deal with Nicol Bolas is overriding the demon magic... After all, Bolas is more powerful than the three demons combined. (see novel Test of Metal for more on Liliana's deal with Bolas)
Posted By: RazielKane (10/9/2011 12:26:30 AM)


I have made a deck that already takes advantage of her. I can kick of her ultimate mulitple times in game just for the fact BW Decks are really good at control. Mirran Cruaders and Phyrexian crusaders with her are really mean which is another feature to combo with her but I really like the fact that I have my play set of her. But I still have to admit she is really expensive at the moment for most people to use so she will either pull a gideon or a Jace 2.0 and start out expensive and go down or just stay expensive.
Posted By: Kodey (10/8/2011 5:12:31 PM)


Just earned two of these sweeties in a fat pack :3
Posted By: Patofou (10/7/2011 4:42:48 PM)


She's good, but not $70 good. And she's certainly not $70 good this early in the block, since there really aren't that many fun things to dump in your graveyard yet.

Unless you're just using her as a $70 edict, she's a build-around-me card. Like Tezzeret, she needs support cards to take advantage of her abilities, and one reanimation spell and a 7 CMC dig spell aren't quite cutting it for me. Personally, I'll just play Tezzeret--who does have an entire block to support his abilities (and can actually kill my opponent)--and pick up my playset of Lilly after the price crashes in two months.
Posted By: Motion2Dismiss (10/7/2011 10:31:09 AM)


In regards to Steve Argyle's artwork both are amazing, but the one chosen for the card is much more subdued and the background is much simpler, the alternate one shows Liliana in a more provocative "belly dancer" type outfit, the background has a very S&M, skulls and bones feeling to it. I think both artwork have their merits, but the alternate artwork would've represented her Ultimate a lot better, having to sacrifice permanents seems really suited for Liliana's personality. 5/5
Posted By: vantha (10/7/2011 10:23:04 AM)


4 Sun Titans + 3 Throne of Geth + 1 Liliana of the Veil = Her ultimate ability twice in a turn.
Posted By: Virde (10/7/2011 12:27:11 AM)


Probably the most overpriced card in the history of this game (been playing since end of Revised). I mean she's good, but she's not $60 good.

Insane what people will pay for a card that is a 4.250 at best, going by this obtuse rating system (don't get me started on that topic)

What happened to common sense and actually being able to evaluate a card?

Oh well, let the suckers pay $60 a pop for her. I'll save my money for cards actually worth that price tag, which I have done many times over and for a lot more than $60. (i.e Black Lotus, Set Of Moxes, Time Walk, Ancestral Recall, Timetwister, Time Vault)

But this? Boggles my mind TOTALLY.

And before anybody tells me that I don't know beans about cards or this game, I've got a collection of over 35,000 cards and have seen and played just about all of them, along with their price tags at peak. No card ever cost this much and did relatively so little. And please don't tell me the original dual lands from the early sets. I got them for $... (see all)
Posted By: landboysteve (10/6/2011 3:37:45 PM)


Turn 1: Despise
Turn 2: Distress
Turn 3: Liliana +1, discard your Vengeful Pharaoh.
Turn 4: ???
Turn 5: Profit.
Posted By: StreamHopper (10/4/2011 9:20:36 AM)


Kryptnyt, nice poem... but how can you sac a creature when you're already below 0?
Posted By: Kragash (10/3/2011 6:24:40 PM)


this card has Spike written all over it
Posted By: raadface (10/3/2011 4:27:58 PM)


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