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a 2/1 fear for :R::B: that has a howl from beyond tacked on? looks legit....
Posted By: catowner (10/15/2010 5:41:23 PM)


In mono-red it's basically: X1R Target creature gets +X/+0 until end of turn. There's other cards that do the same thing, and do it better. The upside is that in any deck with both red and black it's: XBR Target creature gets +X/+0 until end of turn and you get a 2/1 with fear.
Posted By: Test-Subject_217601 (7/26/2010 12:25:35 PM)


If you could give him haste, you could use his ability on himself and he'd be scary indeed.
Posted By: auriscope (2/5/2011 11:28:07 PM)



Why do you feel the need to justify it to your church? Either you feel the game lines up with your morals, which are perhaps guided by the church's morals. Or you feel it's against it. If you ever find yourself comparing your actions to someone else's morals, you've either lost your own sense of right and wrong, or you're asking the wrong question.

Magic has demons and vampires and undead too. Why are impetuous devils worse than any of those. Believe it or not it's not saying devil as in an almighty overlord of hell, those are more like demons. They're talking about little mischievous fiends pulling pranks. I'm pretty sure that's not the same thing as what your church is talking about, and therefore isn't controversial to anyone who actually notes the facts.
Posted By: Doom_Lich (10/1/2012 2:52:21 PM)


Firebreathing Sun Titans nooooo
Posted By: Kryptnyt (9/12/2011 5:04:18 AM)


Don't take theological advice from people on the internet. If this card and ones like it trouble you, you have a few options available to you that have nothing to do with questioning your beliefs or questioning your enjoyment of a cardgame.

1) Don't buy any packs from a set that contains whatever card you find offensive.
2) Write a letter to Wizards of the Coast (as stated, this set is a tad old, and you're likely not to get anywhere since a billion of these are in print) telling them that you would not like to see the devil creature type in the future, and that you were disappointing with the set.

Wizards actually legitimately cares about their Public Relations; particularly in the United States. It's why the first dozen sets or so had "horrors" instead of "demons" and it's why they legitimately take pains to create demons and angels that have little to no resemblance to real biblical/anyotherreligioustext mythical figures.

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Posted By: RAV0004 (8/23/2013 2:23:19 AM)



Is it really so farfetched that in a fantasy game such as this, that you have factions that are both Good and Evil? Granted, I know we all are free to follow whatever faith we choose to follow, but incorporating the ideals of one extreme and not another in a setting as well-developed as Magic: The Gathering is, in my mind, preposterous. There are Angels abound in Magic; have been since the very beginning. Wouldn't it at least seem likely that there would also be Devils? Demons? Evil Spirits? Good vs. Evil clashes everywhere in real life, and the churches preach of its very existence - they don't deny it.

Besides, Good vs. Gooder doesn't really seem to play out too well because no one would really care about the outcome. If the existence of Evil disturbs you in a fantasy setting, maybe you should distance yourself from it.

Also, this card came from Dissension, which has come out years ago. Devils in the series aren't anything new.
Posted By: SadSushi (9/10/2012 7:18:49 PM)


How to explain:
"It's not real"

Sounds too simple, but if someone tries to argue it, just say that it is a fictional pace where not all magic is of the devil. If you must play in church and are worried about how it'll come across (which sounds like a rare situation indeed) play a white deck.
Posted By: orisiti (2/9/2013 7:51:49 AM)


Go figure. Still hilarious that the first? devil printed sparks 'church worries'. Oh religion, you and your followers are so nutty... always good for a laugh tho.
Without checking, I do believe this is the first devil creature type. Second one came from Shards and then Innistrad gave us the bulk of devils in the game. Could devil tribal be done? Maybe?
Posted By: MICKEY.KNOX (4/25/2013 1:59:10 PM)


No reason to make such a controversial creature type... No reason to even go there at all. I have a hard enough time to explain to my church why I play a game called "Magic"... now its got creatures called devils....
Posted By: TheWrathofShane (9/6/2012 4:58:38 PM)


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