Would someone care to explain why this is rated higher than the Beta Black Lotus?
Posted By:
GrimjawxRULES
(9/20/2010 10:38:24 AM)
This card's converted mana cost should NOT be 0. :P It should be Undefined.
I would like card's to be 'balanced but exploitable' whenever possible, but the 'CMC = 0' Hack just seems....a little bit wrong to me. It makes Eggs Decks and creepy tricks with Cascade Possible....
and I'm not saying that in House Rules Casual, that is a bad thing...but I would prefer that Reshape not become a 2-mana Tinker is all. Really, seriously, it because I think Reshape is being abused in ways against the intentions of its Design and Development, because Lotus Bloom is the -only- Artifact Without a Mana Cost I know of, and of course it just HAS TO be a BLACK FREAKING LOTUS WITHOUT A MANA COST :3
that I have a few issues. :P If you want 'Balanced but Exploitable', then an "Undefined" CMC would cause Engineered Explosives to deal exactly:
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Posted By:
DarthParallax
(3/20/2013 9:12:53 PM)
Um, you get the mana whenever you tap and sacrifice it, so it's not useless.
Posted By:
ray_juped
(6/30/2010 4:22:23 AM)
@GrimjawxRULES because the is at a fair enough price and power that people can get their hands on. i got this from a Time Spiral TP, great pull.
Posted By:
Richard_Hawk
(9/24/2010 12:02:02 AM)
Abusable with Tezzeret, the Seeker, as Biems had said.
Posted By:
Axelle
(5/8/2011 5:42:10 PM)
I still don't see how this is really all that much more balanced.
Black Lotus gave you a huge mana advantage for first turns, ect. You practically took 3 extra turns in 1 go from it. This does the exact same thing, except if its in your opening hand, you get it 3 turns later. Its still the same effect and if you didn't win from that boost later on, you're doing it wrong.
Still a 5/5 though.
Posted By:
Boakes2047
(6/1/2011 8:49:02 PM)
Horribly abusable with Salvaging Station. Each creature that hits the 'yard untaps the station and lets you pop your lotus bloom back into play.
Posted By:
cathode01
(6/15/2011 11:09:59 PM)
So incredibly synergistic with dragonstorm.
In the era of Ravnica/Timespiral Standard, this won a lot of games, including first place at Worlds.
Three of these, a dragonstorm and four Bogardan Hellkites in your deck was all you needed to win.
Posted By:
kiseki
(8/4/2011 11:57:26 AM)
One of the most generally useful Black Lotus replacements.
Lion's Eye Diamond, Lotus Blossom, and Lotus Vale can all be very useful in the right deck,
but this one can help out most any deck without any specific combos.
Add in the fact there *are* a few ways of exploiting this card, and you have a winner.
Posted By:
drpvfx
(10/15/2011 4:28:53 PM)
Can someone say Salvaging Station =D
Posted By:
Veovis25
(7/10/2012 2:04:01 PM)