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double the damage done with niv-mizzet
Posted By: Tezz (3/28/2010 1:49:00 PM)
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As for Pandemonium.

When you control multiple effects which go on the stack at the same time, you decide the order. For Example:

Lets say your opponent has no cards in hand. If you attack with Blizzard Specter and Hipnotic Specter and they both get through, you can have Blizzard Specter’s abiity happen first (returning a card to hand) then have Hipnotic Specter's ability take effect (discard that card).
Posted By: AngusMcSillyWilly (6/17/2011 9:57:43 AM)
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Fun with Seal of Fire or Pandemonium
Posted By: WhiteWizard42 (8/5/2009 4:35:28 AM)
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This is quite good in red because you'll usually have nothing in hand turn 7 anyway. If you can play two shocks prior to this, that'd be a plus.
Posted By: Th3_Dark_On3 (6/16/2009 6:57:50 PM)
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very good if you can pop it out of spinrock knoll
Posted By: darkfury (2/15/2010 12:39:37 PM)
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That was my first thought, too, Tezz.
Posted By: themlsna (1/9/2011 6:38:19 PM)
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wow!! just noticed that there is a cycle of 7 cmc rare creatures from this shadowmoor that corrispond to the hideaway lands from lorwyn! just think,

hollowborn barghest for howltooth hollow.

isleback spawn for shelldock isle.

knollspine dragon for spinerock knoll.

mossbridge troll for mosswort bridge.

windbrisk raptor for windbrisk heights.
Posted By: powerdude (10/6/2010 4:54:40 PM)
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@Marsupia: no, that wouldn't make any sense. The ability triggers immediately after the Dragon enters the battlefield. There's no way it could count demage dealt after that.

Card draw in red is weird. Period. Not complaining, though. A 7/5 flying for 7 is really good, and if you're playing a slower format like EDH, I don't see a reason not to use Where ancients tread or Warstorm Surge with it too.

@MindAblaze: Pandemonium depends a lot on your political skills. On a 4-player table, you can team up to prevent an opponent from holding a good board position. Also with Vicious Shadows or similar it turns the battlefield into a minefield. My Malfegor deck uses it, while Maelstrom Wanderer uses Warstorm. Both with this card, not to make this comment off-topic.

@DarthParralax: It sucks with Kaalia. You can't get draws out of combat damage and cheat him into play at the same time.. While Kaalia does like refilling her hand, this... (see all)
Posted By: Lash_of_Dragonbreath (4/4/2013 2:14:00 PM)
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Isleback Spawn >> Shelldock Isle
Hollowborn Barghest >> Howltooth Hollow
Mossbridge Troll >> Mosswort Bridge
Knollspine Dragon >> Spinerock Knoll
Windbrisk Raptor >> Windbrisk Heights
Posted By: Lateralis0ne (3/6/2012 2:20:02 PM)
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my friend used this in a kaalia deck to draw 39 cards in one turn. then i flipped the table.
Posted By: O0oze (11/16/2013 10:49:58 AM)
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