I use this with Sage of Fables. As many non-creature counters as you have blue mana.
Posted By:
FirstPrime
(8/3/2009 8:11:23 PM)
Fun combo with Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker.
Posted By:
Akromar
(2/17/2010 9:33:04 PM)
This card offers excellent protection from removal even if you aren't able to combo it. If you are able to combo it, you can lock down your opponent's non-creature spells as long as you have blue mana to spend. And as an extra bonus, her ability doesn't even require her to tap, so you can attack with her as well! Unfortunately it doesn't have Flash, but having Persist already, it would have been too good.
Posted By:
Vinifera7
(8/27/2009 2:11:54 PM)
This card can mean INFINITE NONCREATURE COUNTER FOR 
EACH if comboed with Melira, Shirei or Sage of Fables... The combo with Sigil Captain also works, because the creature's power and toughness are checked when it enters the battlefield, and so counters that enters with the creature and continuous effects (such as Elesh Norn's power and toughness alterations) are counted.
There are different "layers" for power and toughness determination, and are (in order):
1) characteristic-defining abilities (for example Nightmare: "this creature's power and toughness are each equal to the number of swamps you control");
2) effects that set power and toughness to certain values (for example Diminish, "target creature becomes 1/1 until end of turn");
3) effects that modify power and toughness (for example Immolation: "enchanted cr... (see all)
Posted By:
Paolino
(1/19/2012 8:20:12 AM)
She doesn't need a combo, she's all ready a power house.
Posted By:
desolation_masticore
(5/18/2011 2:40:21 AM)
compare to wizard replica , spiketail drakeling
Posted By:
DlCK
(1/23/2010 11:14:16 PM)
What the hell is this? This is one of those cards that should NEVER be combo'd under any circumstance - as I've played against a blink deck with this. Never again..
Against my better judgment, this card gets 5 for sheer power and maybe artwork? 0/5 for flavor and balance though.
Posted By:
AlphaNumerical
(8/12/2009 12:27:35 AM)
If you get it to stick with Juniper Order Ranger, you will be able to counter as many noncreature spells as you have blue mana. Each sacrifice will also pump the Ranger, too. So, you get a big Ranger with a good way to protect him. I'm sure stock went up with the Ranger when persist came out, so I don't imagine that this is an original idea.
Another good idea would be to use her with Sigil Captain. When she comes back into play, she will be a 1/1, so Sigil Captain's ability will trigger, making her a 3/3 with no -1/-1 counters. Same idea as the Ranger, but the combo is standard legal.
Posted By:
Kenji18
(8/5/2009 10:12:47 AM)
Another amazing card from the Eventide set; I just wish that more of the Eventide cards were as practical as this one.
Posted By:
SavageBrain89
(6/20/2009 7:01:01 PM)
iv always ben confused about the rulling of + and - counters. i thought that if a creature had a +1/+1 counter on it and a -1/-1 counter on it then it would just have both. but on multiple comments i have heard of people refering to methods of adding +1/+1 counters to remove -1 counters. the rullings say nothing. please explain.
Posted By:
bijart_dauth
(4/9/2010 5:36:18 PM)