September 2011 Oracle Update Bulletin. Read it. There is a big change in how the Devourer works, especially in regards to combos involving ability coppiers like Necrotic Ooze or Experamental Kraj.
Posted By:
A3Kitsune
(9/21/2011 11:29:19 PM)
Yeah, they really screwed up the wording when they tried to bring this up to modern templating. Should be destroyed without regen when power >=7, should still use +X/+X counters (non-standard, but who cares - it could matter in a counter-based deck), and activating the ability shouldn't also check the power as part of it's resolution (you should be able to do something at instant speed with your giant creature if you mill a bomb).
As it stands now, it's nearly worthless outside of a +1/+1 counter deck, as all the interesting loopholes in the card have been closed. 6 for maybe a 6/6 and I have to mill 1 or more cards? Pass.
*Update 9/27/2011* Hooray for the Oracle update. Now I can at least see a use for him. Necrotic Ooze is way sweeter now.
Posted By:
C5r1a5z0y
(9/27/2011 9:21:55 PM)
Wow what the hell is wrong with some of you guys.
If Phyrexian Devourer is in the graveyard, and Necrotic Ooze is on your field it has the ability "Exile the top card of your library: Put X +1/+1 counters on Phyrexian Devourer, where X is the exiled card's converted mana cost. If Phyrexian Devourer's power is 7 or greater, sacrifice it." That is a part of the activated ability. It would die at 7 or greater
However, the original wording makes the opposite true. Since it only has the static ability of "When its power is 7 or more sac it" it would not die
Wizards really f'ed this card up when they changed the wording. You could perhaps make a big creature, with no trample, and some cards. Now it is really really bad. Just leave it alone unless you play R & D's secret lair (Which almost never autocards correctly)
Posted By:
ICEFANG13
(4/26/2011 6:50:42 PM)
Maybe they restated the sacrifice clause in the activated ability because of cards like Experiment Kraj.
Posted By:
Cyberknight
(6/30/2010 11:40:27 AM)
This can get huge with Darksteel Forge.
Edit: @dragon504: You're right, what a shame they sometimes translate "bury" into a sacrifice and sometimes into "destroy, can't be regenerated" (how it should be IMO).
Posted By:
holgir
(3/8/2010 1:57:10 AM)
@ratchet1215: I'm curious as to how that would actually play out. I mean, in theory it sounds great and all, but wouldn't the Ooze still die as part of the Devourer's ability if you ever revealed a card with converted mana cost 3 or more? It would get 3 +1/+1 counters, raising its power to 7, and then the last part of the ability would cause it to die before you have the chance to do anything else, wouldn't it?
Posted By:
drp527
(10/19/2010 7:50:02 PM)
They totally should have reprinted this in New Phyrexia. It's so unique and fickle. I LOVE IT
Posted By:
danyo622
(4/30/2011 2:03:54 PM)
Basically, in order to kill an opponent that hasn't taken any damage nor gained life (that is, an opponent on 20), you need at least '20 mana' in the mana costs of 1 and 2 CMC cards remaining in your library. So, for example, you could do it with 4 1 CMC and 8 2 CMC cards left in your library - which is a pretty big ask unless you're running all cheapies except for this (and you won't be given you're also running Triskelion and Necrotic Ooze).
But yes, the severe difference in wording between the actual card and the Oracle text, as well as people hearing about the combo but not investigating it, means that lots of people don't get that Necrotic Ooze will die to any card that's got 3 or more CMC. I had an opponent try to do it in EDH, and I was quite pleased when he exiled Necrotic Ooze and Primeval Titan with his Mimeoplasm, with Devourer and Triskleion in the grave (so he had a 10/9 Necrotic Ooze). He said GG after doing so, so it was nice pointing out that he'd effectively rendeded ... (see all)
Posted By:
JaxsonBateman
(6/30/2011 10:52:01 PM)
For those of you who still don't understand Shiny_Umbreon what they are trying to explain is this, the ability reads Exile the top card of your library *cost of abiliy*: *this part goes on the stack because its the effect of the ability* Put X +1/+1 counters on Phyrexian Devourer, where X is the exiled card's converted mana cost. If Phyrexian Devourer's power is 7 or greater, sacrifice it. This means that Necrotic Ooze can exile the top card and if it costs 3 or more put that on the stack and exile another card off the stack (2 abilities are now on the stack) if this one is cheaper than 3 you let it resolve and continue exiling your deck and removing +1/+1 counters whenever they get added on to the ooze.
Posted By:
__Silence__
(7/24/2011 6:38:06 PM)
Too bad that they changed the wording. I was hoping to combine this one with fling, and really surprise some people. (Since you could keep growing it while the trigger was on the stack.)
Posted By:
Black_Mantha
(7/16/2010 2:22:01 AM)