Melira + Necroskitter + Black Sun's Zenith = lols!
Posted By:
Beladona_13
(5/23/2011 12:47:18 AM)
@ MindEcho and Sir_Thom:
As long as she's on the battlefield, you can neither proliferate any preexisting -1/-1 counters on her controller's creatures, nor any poison counters that player already had. That's because proliferating them is to place one more counter on each of the chosen permanents and/or have that player get one more poison counter. She forbids that.
Effectively, she will turn creatures with infect into normal-damage creatures (incredibly unimpressive for their mana costs) and will make creatures with wither unable to deal visible damage to creatures. Abilities that trigger on damage being dealt, lifelink, deathtouch etc. will still see that damage though.
Her third ability will remove infect from any creature that naturally has it, even if it enters the battlefield after Melira.
When interacting with effects that grant infect to a creature, apply them in timestamp order. Last to be created wins.
For example... (see all)
Posted By:
Falgorn
(5/24/2011 12:21:30 PM)
I understand that she prevents poison counters being put on one's self, as well as one's creatures, but will the act of playing her peel off any counters already in place? Say, for instance, I have 9 poison counters, will she pull them off placing me back at 0 poison counters?
Posted By:
LEP-Recon
(5/27/2011 1:32:27 PM)
Does anyone else realize her third ability actually makes this card weaker?
Posted By:
flashismyfriend
(6/20/2011 12:55:59 AM)
Combines with Murderous Redcap and Goblin Sledder for infinite damage.
Posted By:
pt_z
(6/21/2011 3:49:14 PM)
@Flashismyfriend; I believe the word your looking for is Balanced, not Weaker
Why, why, WHY are people asking if she removes counters? Her wording is probably the clearest, simplist wording I've seen on a card with more than five words, in the past 10+ sets. Stop trying to read into it; it does exactly what it says, and nothing else.
That being said, there's a lot of confusion over what other cards say, and how they interact with her. Any card or effect that would -place- a -1/-1 counter doesn't work.
Cards like Devoted Druid are now useless, because you simply just can't pay the cost. Treat it the same way you would if the card said "Discard one card: Untap devoted druid", and there was a card out that said "cards cannot be discarded". You simply cannot pay the cost, so the effect never even sees the stack.
Contrarywise, if a card would place a counter as part of an effect - ANY EFFECT, the whole ability resolves 100% as normal, just without seeing the -1/-1 counter... (see all)
Posted By:
Dr.Pingas
(6/23/2011 10:04:56 AM)
And poor wither gets shafted.
Posted By:
Condor_96
(7/12/2011 12:22:47 AM)
Fairly insane with Woodfall Primus and a sac outlet, don't you think? Degenerate EDH general?
Posted By:
Kryptnyt
(7/17/2011 7:58:44 AM)
How does this interact with Everlasting Torment? Is her second ability be considered damage reduction?
Edit: Based on the rulings for Tatterkite, Melira will work great with ET:
Tatterkite's ability: Tatterkite can't have counters placed on it.
Ruling: If Tatterkite is dealt damage by a creature with wither, that damage has no effect. It's not prevented; it just doesn't do anything. Abilities that trigger on damage being dealt will still trigger.
So based on that, with ET and Melira out, damage to creatures wouldn't be prevented, it just would have no effect.
Posted By:
helluin
(7/18/2011 9:20:45 PM)
I love this card just because of how much I hate infect. I want to build a green deck strictly to put her into it.
Posted By:
Aburaishi
(7/21/2011 4:49:58 PM)