This can make rituals on turn two. If you use a rit to get it out in the first place.
No, you cannot pay for the madness card that was discarded with this ability by the mana produced by this ability.
Posted By:
KarmasPayment
(11/23/2009 7:22:41 PM)
Would have been worthwhile as an Uncommon or Rare that did not tap to activate. Weak sauce as is though.
Posted By:
RecurringMemories
(3/20/2013 9:20:15 AM)
I feel this card would be awesome with madness, but my gut instinct and knowledge of the stack would tell me that the card would hit the graveyard before the mana would exist from this ability to pay for madness. Not sure though, madness has odd rulings.
Posted By:
xNavarone
(8/15/2010 2:56:28 PM)
What's that? I can only have one Dark Rit in my EDH deck? Well, I've got a little workaround for this.
Posted By:
jfre81
(8/9/2011 2:47:50 AM)
this guy can b prity handy in a reanimater deck.
with a Zombify or something in hand u could bring out any big baddy u got on u.
and since it gives u 3{b} it helps cover some big spells early.
Posted By:
Marlo12345
(2/9/2010 9:33:25 PM)
nice card, but not as good as DR. it could be usefull if you have a card that lets you untapp for 1 or 2 (can't remember the card, but i know it exests). and another card that always returns to your hand after deth. then you have an infinit mana combo. good luck finding a card that returns as soon as you loose it for free though.
Posted By:
bijart_dauth
(4/3/2010 6:19:40 PM)
Try Worn Powerstone in place of this. Unless you really need black mana rather than colorless.
Posted By:
Kryptnyt
(6/15/2011 6:31:32 PM)
Convoluted, situational, improbable, but possible:
This + Umbral Mantle + 2x Training Grounds + Diviner's Wand
Step 1 - Pay {B}, discard a card, tap this guy: Add {B}{B}{B} to mana pool.
Step 2 - Pay {B}, untap this guy: he gets +2/+2.
Step 3 - Pay {B}, activate Diviner's Wand's ability: Draw a card.
{B} left in mana pool. Repeat Step 1.
Simultaneously draw into whatever you need from your deck while filling up your graveyard and pumping up this guy to a giant. With a Psychosis Crawler out it gets nasty.
Posted By:
tankthebest
(5/20/2013 3:50:37 PM)
@TreeTrunkMaster - or you could discard a Dark Ritual and then use Yawgmoth's Will to flash it back later.
Posted By:
Kodanshi
(6/20/2013 4:49:56 PM)
The world is the body. The mana is the blood. The witch is the phlebotomist.
Posted By:
Salient
(3/22/2014 9:26:19 AM)