Innistrad?
Posted By:
Shinigami-2099
(4/4/2011 1:21:02 PM)
I really like Liliana and she's quite powerful when combined with Liliana's Caress, Megrim, other discard effects, and draw effects, BUT it seems like they really nerfed her by printing Obstinate Baloth. That card will make you afraid to play Liliana's basic +1 ability. I don't like how a single card can nerf a single Planeswalker like that. It's not like Vampire Hexmage, which is useful against all Planeswalkers, including the overpowered Super Friends (Gideon, Jace 2.0, Elspeth). Liliana, however, is balanced and Obstinate Baloth just ruins her day.
Posted By:
Michael_Bender
(7/27/2010 2:02:18 PM)
Ehh, first off let me say, I love this card. It is my favorite of the original planeswalkers, and being a player that loves extraction and discard decks, I can truly appreciate a lot of what she has to offer, but her first ability is simply too weak. By any standards. Second ability, better, but the fact she costs 5 and you don't get the card to your hand somewhat sours the party. And her ultimate ability, why are they not dead by the time you use this? The absolute earliest this card can hit the board in standard is turn 3 (if you're ramping with green) and it would take her 4 additional turns to be able to use it. Those are absolutely perfect conditions, and using cards that you will never see in a discard deck. You're also hoping your opponent doesn't take a few swings at her. So no, you will never use that ability with any kind of consistency.
Now I've seen some comments of here say things like "if you can't use her then you're not making a proper discard deck."
Excuse me? Maybe... (see all)
Posted By:
Kitty_the_Kat
(8/20/2011 3:43:47 AM)
@rinoh20
not true, i picked up another Liliana Vess for $5.99 at my local card shop, i got a Sorin Markov for $5.99, and 2 Jace Belerens each for $8.99. It all depends where you look and with a little luck you can find them for pretty cheap.
Posted By:
dante0220
(9/6/2011 5:59:32 AM)
With scry and her minus two you've got everything you want.
Posted By:
Youipt
(7/12/2010 5:54:07 PM)
It was announced that Innistrad would have a planeswalker with 5 abilities. Liliana Vess is coming back as Liliana of the Veil. I'm hoping that someone gets an upgrade...
Posted By:
PcvsApple
(8/22/2011 11:55:30 AM)
The new liliana has been spoiled
+1 every player discards a card
-2 target player sacrifices a creature
-6 separate target players permanents in one pile, then that player chooses one of them. Then they sacrifice the rest
3 loyalty, 1BB
Posted By:
use643
(8/31/2011 7:00:17 AM)
Dear WotC:
Liliana is awesome. We've been waiting very patiently for an upgrade. May we make a suggestion?
How about;
Liliana, Grave Witch 2BB
0: Destroy target creature, you lose life equal to that creature's toughness.
-1: Add BBB to your mana pool.
-5: Each other player loses life equal to the number of creature cards in their graveyards. You gain life equal to the amount lost this way.
9
Posted By:
PhyrexianAdvocate
(2/16/2011 4:50:01 PM)
@ sorin688 - really? liliana can come out as early as you like with cards like dark ritual and lake of the dead (granted that ones hard to come by). You could have her out first turn. You could have enough loyalty for her last effect by turn 4. Combine her with ANYTHING with deathtouch, or a death baron, and you got a nice little army there. I like liliana. Been looking for her for a while now.
Posted By:
rainbownorth
(7/27/2011 3:13:53 PM)
ability 1=Megrim...
ability 3=Soul's Attendant...
Posted By:
fanofmagic
(7/19/2010 6:46:46 AM)