I have a problem
If I cast a Precursor Golem and I get 2 3/3 golem;
then I cast Rite of Replication and pay the kicker cost, target on Precursor Golem;
after resolve I cast Rite of Replication again and pay the kicker cost, target on Precursor Golem.
How many golem I will have?
Posted By:
clarkero
(1/7/2011 1:39:11 AM)
You get 28 golems from one kicked Rite of Replication. 5 of those golem tokens are Precursor Golems which generate their own golem tokens when they hit the field. 10 of them, to be precise.
3 x 5 = 15 +3 +10 = 28.
With that in mind, if you kicked another Rite at a golem.
28 x 5 = 140
+ 28 = 168
+ 60 = 228
Again the extra 60 comes from having 30 Precursors enter the battlefield.
On another note, I was watching a game in which one guy had this and his two golem tokens. His Precursor had a Whispersilk Cloak equipped and one of the golem tokens had Doom Blade cast on it. The guy who cast Doom Blade said that the Precursor would be destroyed due to the way copy effects like this work, even though it had shroud. Is that BS or what?
Posted By:
Wraique
(1/11/2011 10:44:55 PM)
Rys the redeemed anyone?
Posted By:
Ninjakraken
(1/17/2011 2:33:59 PM)
Not the best use of it ever, but Momentous Fall'ing it in response to lighting bolt is pretty hillarious...
Posted By:
Deadpool2000
(1/21/2011 8:34:44 AM)
if you guys are finished doing naughty things to yourself over this card, i'll throw in my $0.02.
a 1-1 trade for a lightning bolt at 5 mana is hardly a reason to get so excited. Any other fattie coud die to doom blade and similar point removal spells, but a lightning bolt/flame slash and other cheap kill spells get rid of this guy a bit too easily.
Defensively, this might be a bad trade, or a good one (depending on the removal). Offensively, it's better as it works with giant growth and similar effects. With the artifact anthemn it's a beast (three 5/5 dudes that no longer die to x/4 removal spells), instant metalcraft is also nice.
If you are running a midrange beatdown deck with pump up effects via instants/sorceries this guy might be well worth it.
Posted By:
qki
(1/22/2011 6:54:30 AM)
splinter twin. Tap the golem you get 2 more from the come into play ability and only the first one sacs.
Posted By:
bijart_dauth
(1/26/2011 2:43:30 PM)
These numbers aren't big enough. I see some people had the right idea, but I just wanted everyone to know exactly how ridiculous this is with Mirrorweave and Rite of Replication/Heat Shimmer. This the largest non-infinite number of tokens ever made.
Assume there are 10 total creature to begin with. I cast Mirrorweave followed by an unkicked Rite of Replication...
"that player copies that spell for each other golem that spell could target" #1
...
"that player copies that spell for each other golem that spell could target" #10
"Put a token onto the battlefield that's a copy of target creature"
This turns into
"Put a token onto the battlefield that's a copy of target creature" #1
...
"Put a token onto the battlefield that's a copy of target creature" #9
"that player copies that spell for each other golem that spell could target" #2
...
"that player copies that spell for... (see all)
Posted By:
KikiJikiTiki
(1/28/2011 10:32:32 PM)
copied or not, an ability that says " I CANNOT BE TARGETED" means so. so if one of your golems had haste the spell would fizzle, because the shrouded golem would be an illegal target.
Posted By:
Hyroko
(2/1/2011 5:13:45 PM)
A lot of people have the wrong idea on the effect, so let's break it down.
"Whenever a player casts an instant or sorcery spell that targets only a single Golem..."
What this means:
1. If an effect copies a spell and the target of the copy is a Golem, this doesn't make more copies of the spell because those copies weren't cast. Ink-Treader Nephilim has no synergy with this card unless you can turn it into a Golem (in which case you'll get two copies of the spell for each other Golem.)
2. If a spell has its target changed to a Golem, it does not trigger the effect because that isn't how it was originally cast. You can't Redirect your opponent's pump spell and get copies.
3. Copies of a spell that are generated due to this effect are not cast. Mindbreak Trap is therefore not an automatic freebie (although for its hardcast cost it's still an effective way to counter stuff) and Bituminous Blast/... (see all)
Posted By:
Artscrafter
(2/18/2011 3:19:48 PM)
I wouldnt mind using my own Path to Exile on this... and this guy will definitely make your opponent think twice about using theirs.
P.S. Can we stop naming the typical combos involving Tainted Strike, Twisted Image, Rite of Replication, Giant Growth etc etc etc..... we get it already! This card is awesome!
Posted By:
DarthKithkin
(2/23/2011 3:25:37 PM)