This is one of the harder walkers to evaluate, and they are already hard. As it stands it seems very strong in control mirrors, but outside of that its hard to say.
Posted By:
.Blaze.
(9/17/2013 3:18:20 PM)
If anyone has doubts about his power level, use her with Undercity Informer. Don't see him as a creature stealer, look at her as a way to rip through an opponent's library faster.
Plus, with the Informer, you can grab anything - no matter how useless - and turn it into extra milling
Posted By:
ThisisSakon
(9/30/2013 2:46:41 PM)
@Umbric
What? Identity crisis off your planeswalker can't win you the game? If you've kept it alive long enough to use the -10, that is game over. They no longer have a hand, and you probably have the board tied up enough already, so they have no options and are probably already losing.
Requiring -10 is fair considering that it has a +2, starts at 3 loyalty, and only costs 3 mana. If I recall correctly, liliana of the veil was ****ing broken, and you shouldn't bother comparing it to this.
The real power from this card is obvious. It comes out early, and you pass the turn with 5 counters on it. That puts it out of range of even boros charm. If it survives the turn, you can sit back and more loyalty on this guy while you cast removal, or you can put some pressure on by getting a free creature in addition to your removal or keep your mana open to counter whatever they try to do.
The weakness of this card is not that it's ul... (see all)
Posted By:
SAUS3
(10/4/2013 12:26:43 PM)
@Legendxp: Androgynous means "of both sexes". I think the word you were looking for was "asexual".
Posted By:
Tiggurix
(9/20/2013 1:09:34 PM)
Great art. Impressive abilities.
Posted By:
YoungSloshee
(9/17/2013 2:32:56 PM)
Lord of the Void, Nightveil Specter, and Psychic Intrusion are this guy's buddies. I think I may make a viable standard control/exile/deck thief deck out of this.
Posted By:
TheMentalProdigy
(9/24/2013 7:03:21 PM)
"I asked what his preferred pronouns were. He/she asked me which of my creatures would be able to kill me most."
"Don't worry about checking your privilege. Ashiok will gladly check it for you." *Proceeds to screw your mind*
"Die, cis scum... Or go mad... or serve me. There's quite a few things cis scum can do, really."
Posted By:
Lord_Ascapelion
(9/24/2013 7:51:33 PM)
people are saying he is OK. But now he is in almost every esper and dimir control list he he went from 17 to 30 dollars. coincidence? I think not.
Posted By:
Boroski
(10/3/2013 11:25:24 AM)
@Tiggurix: I can't see the original comment, so forgive me if I misunderstand the situation, but if Legendxp said Ashiok is androgynous, he is correct. It means you can't determine their gender, not that they are both. Asexual means they have no gender, which seems to be Ashiok's gender identity ((s)he doesn't actually want to be defined as either gender.) but (s)he is still androgynous.
EDIT: Player's guide to Theros says "He". Case closed.
Posted By:
Megadog
(9/28/2013 10:28:22 PM)
:/
1. it's a DIMIR PLANESWALKER, which I think EVERYONE was eager and anxious for as soon as Jace Beleren was spoiled in LORWYN x.x
somehow, people seem to have partially forgotten that they just wanted a U/B pw no matter what it did. in other words, Walkers have been around so long that....well...we know a little bit how to evaluate them x( So, we actually DO care what it does more than we would if it had shown up earlier :( I guarantee, if this had been a Scars of Mirrodin Planeswalker, people would have loved it a lot more, just because that would be longer ago and people would be less certain of criticizing it and more focused on the Pure Vorthosness.
2. But...we know just enough about Walkers now that we can see, as cool as this is Vorthos wise, it's got some important downsides :/ It can't consistently protect itself. It's a bit too awkward and costly to 'make' or 'steal' creatures with this. The two abilities are not JUST "synergistic" the second ab... (see all)
Posted By:
DarthParallax
(9/18/2013 6:41:10 AM)