Man oh man. I had one of these cards for so long (traded for it, thought I got ripped off for a while) -- and I never, until after it was errated, realized that it could be literally used like a Black Lotus simply by playing it and tapping it in response to the entered-play trigger. Oh well, too late now.
It's still a decent card, and not even just in a land recursion deck. The removal of mana burn and the steady decline of land destruction have helped it out significantly.
Posted By:
Aquillion
(5/9/2013 9:26:22 PM)
I used to play with this card. On the surface it's beautiful. But then you play it and your opponent follows up next turn with Stone Rain or whatever.
Use with Crucible of Worlds or similar combo. By itself, it can end up deciding the game, against your favor.
Posted By:
Technetium
(5/10/2013 12:14:08 PM)
o_O
ummm....yes. well.
it's Black Lotus. even with the penalty, it's still Black Lotus. Yes, at any given time, rather than destroy the Reserved List, they could just Errata Lotus Vale....and then the Dual Land/Moxen/Black Lotus crisis would be partly helped.
This card could rise to a couple hundred if they did that, but I don't think it's rare enough to warrant a Grand. :P
Posted By:
DarthParallax
(11/1/2013 9:14:27 AM)
I wonder how long it took them to realize they functionally reprinted black lotus. Its not anymore with the oracle though.
Posted By:
TheWrathofShane
(11/8/2013 2:27:37 AM)
Wizards attempts to reprint Black Lotus seem to work out similarly to Wile E. Coyote's attempts to catch the Road Runner.
Posted By:
EGarrett01
(12/15/2013 9:56:33 AM)
Crucible of worlds, yes. Knight of the Reliquary, yes. Flagstones of Trokair, yes. But you all failed to mention Sun Titan...
He gets lands back, too.
Also, Cartographer and Harvest Wurm.
Posted By:
JunkHarvester
(1/25/2014 6:21:54 PM)
You can actually cheat this into play if Humility and Living Plane are on the field.
Oh did I just mentioned an insane combo that makes all lands to lose mana abilities?
Posted By:
non1337
(4/14/2014 1:47:18 PM)
A nice little combo with Second Sunrise. On turn three you can play the vale, and tap it for 3 to play the sunrise to get 6 mana available on turn 4. It could potentially go in any deck too since the vale taps for any color, probably best for something with white in it at least though.
Posted By:
Nebulium
(4/18/2014 10:31:19 PM)