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Is there a typo in his flavor text? I'm not that good at english grammar, but something tells me it isn't right...
Posted By: TheDrifter (2/19/2012 11:30:18 PM)


Style points for saccing Vhati il-Dal when he comes into play.
Posted By: Wanderer25 (5/14/2011 4:20:11 PM)


Ahh I miss these guys. Greven.. Gerrard.. Love this art. Very bland card.. but a 7/5 Fear for 6 meant game over.

Flash on this guy would be so cool.
Posted By: Kryplixx (11/1/2009 10:12:35 PM)


Everyone hatin on the G man... I think he has really good synergy with undying.

Greven comes into play, I'll sac my Geralf's Messenger.
Posted By: Gremstein (6/5/2012 1:08:08 PM)


Not exactly an interesting card, but he's buff, anyway.

Plus, it's fun to say "Commander Greven il-Vec" in a foreboding Russian accent.
Posted By: Kirbster (7/1/2010 7:35:30 PM)


I get the strong feeling this card was designed before they knew how to make Legends, especially mono-colored ones. Oh, he's nothing as embarrasing as Legends legendary creatures, but I think the sacrifice a creature clause was intended to penalize you for getting such a large creature with fear. :/ The thing is, while fear is nice, it's basically worth about the same as trample- sometimes it's more useful, sometimes a lot less, so a 6 mana triple-black creature with fear...should have more than this to be exciting, if it's legendary.

BUT! the sacrifice turns out to be a Johnny-hackable ability that makes this one of the best-aged legends in Magic :) Of course newer legends are just plain better, thanks for rubbing that in From the Vault, :P but of all the pre-modern card frame Legends, this one might have some of the highest potential even if he starts out boring-ish, because so much can be done with sacrifice and death triggers.
Posted By: DarthParallax (3/4/2013 12:55:50 PM)


I really miss this card. It remindes me one of the disireable cards when i was a kid, when i got one my deck i was always expecting the time of the game when i can put it:P
i wish this card could reborn once again from the dead
Posted By: Kamikaze312 (1/29/2010 4:46:07 PM)


At one point Greven was a pretty strong creature. 7/5 fear for 6? But still there were better...personally I think Ishan's Shade is better (6 for a 5/5 pro-white). Usually the creature you sac is gonna have 2 or more power anyways...really kinda bland for such a cool figure in Tempest history. Very vanilla and outright boring to be honest...2/5 stars for that reason alone.
Posted By: kitsunewarlock (6/1/2009 9:36:25 PM)


Well he's hardly human. Haha i like how his little croney Vhati il-Dal is so much better nowadays than this fool.
Posted By: Omenchild (4/18/2010 6:39:42 PM)


Now, suppose your opening draw happened to be a swamp, Lotus Petal, two Dark Ritual, Greven and a zero casting cost artifact creature like Ornithopter to sac for Greven...but what are the odds?
Posted By: jfre81 (4/25/2011 2:12:03 AM)


Gatherer works better in the Companion app!