Evil
Posted By:
Teotanek
(2/13/2010 10:25:21 PM)
This isnt banned. I agree it should be, but why are people saying it is.
And fauna is not anywere near a creature version of this. It has to tap to do this, severarly weakening it.
Posted By:
bijart_dauth
(3/4/2011 3:05:05 PM)
BANNED?!? Are you kidding me wizards theres nothing wrong with this card. I refuse to buy another pack of magic till this is unbanned.
Posted By:
Ace8792
(12/20/2010 1:53:59 PM)
Completely broken..
.5/5
Even when this is not used in a top tier deck, can get you exactly the creature you need at any time for . If it said exile instead of discard would be a bunch more fair and actually be used as the card was intended. Even though it still would be crazy with exile, at least you couldnt abuse the graveyard with it as well.
@Recurring Memories
Cards like this are what make magic Pay 2 Win and One Sided.
Posted By:
TheWrathofShane
(12/2/2013 4:47:29 PM)
The banning of this card is a ridiculous move on Wizards' part:
1). It's an enchantment, any serious player will have an answer for enchantments (and most likely artifacts) in their sideboard if not their main deck because of all the other enchantments we all know, love and fear (Counterbalance, anybody?).
2). It's an activated ability, so there are ways to prevent it or limit it (Pithing Needle, Aven Mindcensor, Suppression Field, Mindlock Orb...).
3). It fuels the graveyard, and decks that make the most aggressive use of Survival rely on their graveyards. And just like the first example, any legacy player worth their salt will have graveyard hate on hand to shut that down...I won't bother with examples because there are so many. Sure the Survuval player can still get any creature they want as long as they have something to pitch and one green to pitch it with, but that's much more manageable than Vengevines and Iona popping back into play from the 'yard.
4). It's a ... (see all)
Posted By:
Smedley
(1/29/2011 3:08:37 PM)
There's no reason this should be banned while Elvish Piper isn't even restricted.
Posted By:
AvatarofBro
(11/18/2011 8:11:26 PM)
@thewrathofshane I hardly think it's the fact the creature goes to the graveyard that makes this card broken. That's like saying that it was the fact it countered a spell for {U}{U} that broke Mana Drain.
Posted By:
Blackhawk9000
(7/3/2013 6:39:16 PM)
5/5 for the bloody hot mess of artwork.
Posted By:
Richard_Hawk
(9/14/2010 11:58:16 PM)
@Ace,
u mad?
I am quite happy to see this card gone. When 3/4ths of a tournament is survival decks, you know something needs to be changed. Let's hope it stays banned indefinitely.
Posted By:
PolskiSuzeren
(12/21/2010 4:00:27 PM)
Banned.
Still a fantastic engine with almost endless possibilities.
I will say that although I enjoy the synergy with vengevine, I have been having a lot of fun using survival with a toolbox of legendary creatures and then recurring them with Loyal Retainers.
5/5
Posted By:
apollogod
(1/3/2011 8:26:27 AM)