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This looks really bad by current standards, but when it was printed 4/4 for 4 was very respectable. (In casual, being a Thrull didn't exactly hurt either.) It's also splashable, so you could play it as the only black card in your deck, getting a cheap (by the standards of the time) fatty that couldn't be Terrored and ignoring the drawback.

Unfortunately, few cards have been hurt more by the general improvement in the quality of creatures over the years than Derelor.

@Darkrider - a three-card combo, one of them a 1/1 creature you need to untap with to pull it off, that doesn't win the game and gives my opponent a free 4/4? Colour me unimpressed.
Posted By: jeff-heikkinen (3/24/2010 2:31:23 AM)


Well I thought it was a cool combo, darkcider...
Posted By: izzet_guild_mage (6/11/2010 1:51:37 PM)


If it's so bad you have to Donate it, then it's bad. You hand this crap to me in a game, and I'm gonna turn it into a dragon token with Sarkhan the Mad, stupid.
Posted By: DacenOctavio (3/27/2011 3:05:56 AM)


people you need to open your eyes more to the possibilities, say bazaar trader it to your opponent then magical hack it to whatever corlor/colors there playing and thats a VERY difficult lock to get out of.
Posted By: darkcider (3/10/2010 9:18:11 AM)


I agree with Jeff on all points. 3 cards should be a win, but you're basically giving them an unblockable 4/4 (as you'll have wasted 2 cards if you kill it) and all it does is inconvenience most decks. Any deck with green or is multi-colored in general may very well have:

-produce mana color that an opponent could produce
-choose a color, you produce that color
-produce any color (maybe with some drawback)

and further, there's TONS and TONS of ways to sacrifice creatures, destroy/kill creatures etc. And again, it doesn't even win you the game, it just forces the opponent to do something... one of many many things. Personally I'd likely either have the black mana or having something like Ashnod's Altar.

Further, it also is vulnerable 3 times to counterspells, gives two removal spell options, is screwed against something that prohibits player targeting, creature targeting, or similar, and is vulnerable to stifle and similar effects. Basically every possible way to generate a "counter... (see all)
Posted By: blurrymadness (3/26/2011 12:28:05 AM)


@VegaSecureA That isn't really a combo unless your talking about getting 4 1/1 Thrulls with this guy. His ability doesn't change the Converted Mana Cost of black creatures it simply makes you pay extra to play them. Although I can understand the confusion.
Posted By: __Silence__ (7/23/2011 8:48:58 AM)


Every copy of this card should be collected, placed on a rocket and fired directly into the Sun. All records of it should be scoured from the internet. It should not be mentioned aloud, ala Voldemort's name in the Harry Potter world to rid us of this abomination of a card. Couldn't resist. :)
Posted By: DoDaDippity (9/20/2011 12:11:13 PM)


I hate this card so much. I understand the benefits of the Invasion leeches, but this has no upside. A 4/4 for 4? Ridiculous.
Posted By: Shabroky (1/2/2010 3:44:00 PM)


This is great with Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder
Posted By: VegaSecureA (9/23/2010 7:36:27 PM)


Interesting mechanic, but nowadays this would be printed costing 2BlackBlack and be a 5/5 or something. That being said it'd be interesting to see a card with a similar ability printed. It's very black.
Posted By: BongRipper420 (10/9/2012 9:45:24 AM)