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So, would this work with Pentavus or Tetravus? I know the rulings say it doesn't copy counters already on the creature, but wouldn't it read the card its copying and come into play with the counters like the original?
Posted By: savaenelf (12/19/2009 6:58:55 PM)


One Storm Crow?
TWO Storm Crows?
O.O -quits-
Posted By: zeyette (2/25/2010 9:51:59 PM)


Posted By: touchdown (10/9/2009 5:05:23 PM)


Since you have to sac the token at end of turn anyway, play Ooze Garden and sac the token to that, instead. Also, Doubling Season.
Posted By: A3Kitsune (3/18/2010 3:56:19 AM)


This card rocks!! Anyone that says it doesn't seriously has never used it or they have never used it right! I love it. And the art is awesome!!
Posted By: EvilCleavage (4/21/2010 6:49:35 PM)


@mr_Trickster: Copying something copies everything PRINTED on the card. In the same way that bouncing a creature to your hand and playing it again recalls nothing of its previous existence, copying it doesn't copy counters on it, or enchantments or equipment attached to it. But the token would also have devour, and that would trigger separately. In fact, you could even devour the original. If I'm right, you can devour the token. Since both devour and Minion Reflector's triggered ability are enters-the-battlefield, you put them on the stack in any order and choose which resolves first.

@saveanelf: It doesn't copy the number of counters on it, but it DOES copy "this creature comes into play with 5 +1/+1 counters" and the tokens respond accordingly.

Remember the copied values of X in a mana cost (since it's a creature permanent and no longer a spell) is zero, so your Protean Hydra will auto-die.
Posted By: Tynansdtm (4/23/2011 9:21:37 AM)


Double Ball Lightning, all the way across the sky!
Posted By: Superllama12 (6/13/2011 3:17:17 PM)


fails to cancel
Posted By: Areps (8/2/2011 8:54:39 PM)


Alright, so... It gives the token Haste and the Sac ability, right? So, if I drop something like, say, Cemetery Puca, and something dies before the end of my turn, could I not, say, copy the dead creature, effectively over-writing the Haste and Sac effects? Same with Essence of the Wild, because the token would come into play from the effect with Haste, and then be changed INTO an Essence of the Wild, wouldn't the change get rid of the Haste and Sac abilities, effectively giving you a permanent Essence for 2 each time you drop something?
Posted By: Dr.Pingas (1/22/2012 1:41:21 PM)


Use with any of the following for an infinite combo win: Dread Drone, Emrakul's Hatcher, Kozilek's Predator, Morselhoarder, Priest of Gix, Priest of Urabrask, and Workhorse.
Posted By: Gaffy00 (4/19/2012 7:48:55 PM)


Gatherer works better in the Companion app!