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Apparently hydras are much scarier in Kalonia.
Posted By: badmalloc (7/20/2013 1:27:34 PM)
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Can someone explain the last ruling:

In some unusual cases, Vastwood Hydra will have enough -1/-1 counters put on it to make its toughness 0 or less. If this happens, the ability will still distribute a number of +1/+1 counters equal to the number of +1/+1 counters on Vastwood Hydra before the -1/-1 counters were put on it. For example, if Vastwood Hydra has two +1/+1 counters on it and three -1/-1 counters are put on it, two +1/+1 counters will be distributed.

Unless the rules have changed, shouldn't the +1/+1 counters be removed?

121.3. If a permanent has both a +1/+1 counter and a -1/-1 counter on it, N +1/+1 and N -1/-1 counters are removed from it as a state-based action, where N is the smaller of the number of +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters on it.
Posted By: QuesoMadness (7/21/2013 1:21:39 PM)
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Well i have a question. The card says When Vastwood Hydra dies, you may distribute a number of +1/+1 counters equal to the number of +1/+1 counters on Vastwood Hydra among any number of creatures you control. For example if the hydra has 10 counters on them and i have 2 creatures on the battlefield and hydra dies i put for example 5 counters to one and 5 to another or 10 to each of them?
Posted By: killybilly (7/24/2013 7:48:01 AM)
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Huh...! Now, it doesn't exactly work, but I'll still call this guy Arcbound Hydra!
Posted By: Totema (8/2/2013 6:55:44 PM)
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I think that this card is beautiful for simic decks. If you have a master biomancer out, it takes care of two counters, letting you tap less mana to pump it up, and you can pump it up more with Vorel of the Hull Clade. When it finally does get destroyed (or blown up, as I like to say) it won't go to waste. This creature is one of those cards that is just there to die and won't go to waste when it does. I also find that it can be useful in Golari if a Corpsejack menace is out as well.

I say this card is a 4/5.
Posted By: Xinsden (8/8/2013 3:32:19 PM)
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Its a decent limited card, but if you go up against R/B sacrifice its a huge liability, as they can steal/sac your hydra allowing them to put the counters on their own creatures.
Posted By: Johnny_Vegas (9/18/2013 9:57:46 PM)
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I might be aging myself but this card reminds me of Krakilin from back in Tempest except I think the regenerate ability is more relevant while Supreme Verdict is out than this guy's ability. Plus, Krakilin was an uncommon, this guy takes up a rare slot and is irrelevant against control. For this I say,
"Release the Krakilin!"
Ok, I'm done now.
Posted By: Grixish (10/1/2013 12:58:45 PM)
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At first I couldn't see the appeal of this card over the other hydras out there. But then I remembered Corpsejack Menace.
Posted By: RamenAwesome (1/3/2014 1:27:53 AM)
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Reply to an old question, but in case some are still curious: QuesoMadness, if enough -1/-1 counters are put on the hydra such that it's toughness is less than 1, two different state based actions will be triggered- mutual counter annihilation, yes, but also the creature being placed in the graveyard. When they both try to happen at the same time, the creature is placed in the graveyard and considered to have still had its full collection of +1/+1 counters on it when it did. There are a couple of other cards where this entertaining situation can occur and matter (for instance, Undying- see the Dark Ascension FAQ).
Posted By: Dupre (3/12/2014 4:04:08 PM)
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