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Anyone else notice that the token for this wasn't printed with haste? I'd actually missed that is had haste the first time I played with this.
Posted By:
DaJoshMaster
(12/30/2012 6:30:05 PM)
I'm disappointed with how low it's rated, to be honest. You can play it early and not be behind at all (unless you have a lot of R RR RRR costs), and it gives an aggressive red deck some longevity and ability to break away from a tight game on the board. Don't underestimate how much a hasty 4/4 can be in an aggressive deck.
Posted By:
steinburger1109
(2/7/2013 3:03:57 PM)
I run as a 2-of in Grixis Control standard. It hasn't caused me color issues yet, and it's a nice backup plan. Makes Thragtusk easier to deal with (kill Thrag, stall out the 3/3 with your 4/4), and in general there seem to be a lot of 3/3 or less creatures in Standard right now. I think I've won at least 2 games over the past 3 tournaments solely from Hellion Crucible damage. Don't underestimate this.
Posted By:
deggdegg
(2/14/2013 9:25:27 AM)
What a bad rare. It's not the worst ever but it's pretty bad. Three turns and six mana for a 4/4 token with haste?
Posted By:
wholelottalove
(3/9/2013 5:25:25 PM)
@Continue
That's a rather harsh rating/analysis. The card may not be very good, but keep in mind that it is still just a land slot. If your land base is already really simple (all mountains for RDW), you can easily replace 1 land with this, and the odd time it comes up, it could win you the game.
I like this card because it gives you one more trick up your sleeve. Your opponent can't ignore it because it could be a threat to them later, but you can ignore it because it's just a land to you. Build up the counters when you have spare mana, and then when you have nothing to play, or just need a tiny bit more damage, you have the option.
4/5
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@Sago
Not really. That's a gigantic waste of crucible of worlds. If you're running that card, you are at least in modern, and in modern, it works better with fetchlands or something like tectonic edge.
If you move to legacy, you can combo it with wasteland and lock your oppo... (see all)
Posted By:
SAUS3
(6/19/2013 8:46:51 AM)
Completely worth the slot in my two colour standard decks, makes some sense in WUR control (Opponent didn't provoke any actions? Add a pressure counter!) and well... Is gonna be filling a slot in all my commander decks featuring red. It's unfortunate 4/4 hasted hellions aren't an option for Trostani.
Even if it's not doing that much work, I simply love lands like these that have bonus effects too much. My friends would be extremely confused if I wasn't playing around with my land more than my other cards.
Posted By:
HotHit
(8/23/2013 2:30:04 PM)
I don't know why people give this card so much flak, sure you sacrifice the land for its ability, but it's not like you have to pay mana every turn, I use it in one of my mono red decks and it works fine, never clogged never directly made me lose and sometimes I get a sweet 4/4 haste token, I fail to see how this card is as bad as people are making it out to be.
Posted By:
MDG117
(3/28/2014 5:24:44 AM)