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Posted By: Niflheim (10/1/2012 3:32:04 PM)


Why does no one mention Wrath of God ?
this combos with it.... really well.
Posted By: Barjin-N-Blastum (10/2/2012 9:36:21 AM)


Lim-Dûl can stack above this card's effect and resolve first :) Either that or he'll die and turn against you :(
Posted By: Wizard-of-the-Toast (10/15/2012 12:16:58 PM)


Played this at the prerelease, then my opponent played it too... Things just wouldn't stay dead...
Posted By: Demento_Recraves (10/15/2012 5:32:29 PM)


Ok, say I'm using this in EDH and i kill my opponents commander. He puts it in the command zone from the graveyard. I'm thinking I won't get it seeing as it left the graveyard right? Either way let's assume the player left his commander in his graveyard. I assume control of his general, and begin bashing his/her face in. Does "general damage" stack up, and if so for who? I used this last night against my friends Stoutarm edh. was kinda fun because we just went along with I'd get his general no matter what and I just started blowing up his creatures with his own general to deal damage to his own face. It was a grave betrayal... I love it!
Posted By: wpken (10/16/2012 10:52:07 AM)


If it didn't cost soooo much mana. This card would be great in many of my black decks but seven mana is just too much. I need something that will win me the game for seven mana, not just give me more creatures.
Posted By: wholelottalove (10/17/2012 8:48:51 AM)


fun with Treacherous Pit-Dweller you summon it, it dies, your opponent gets it, it dies again, then you get it back, too bad their mana costs are too far apart

anyways helluvan awesome combo with one of my favorite cards, Bazaar Trader nothing short of exile can remove your creatures from play.

oh, you're gonna Doom Blade my Akroma, Angel of Fury?
it'd be a shame if somehow, you controlled her
Posted By: klauth (10/21/2012 6:14:04 AM)


@wpken: When a commander is destroyed or dealt lethal damage or has toughness of 0 you either put it into your graveyard OR you move it to the command zone. If you move it to the command zone, it is a replacement effect, meaning any abilities that would trigger from that card going to the graveyard don't trigger. The same is true if your commander is exiled by a card such as Oblivion Ring, so that instead of being exiled you may put it in the command zone instead. Note that you can keep your commander in the exile zone so that if you blow up said Oblivion Ring you don't have to pay the extra {2} to cast your commander.

As far as general damage is concerned, the rules of EDH state that if you are dealt 21 points of combat damage by a single commander you lose the game. Unfortunately, Brion Stoutarm's ability is not combat damage. Regardless, if you dealt 21 points of combat damage with his Brion Stoutarm he would lose the game.
Posted By: sliverpaw (10/24/2012 11:08:02 AM)


Nice artwork, and it seems to be a Shivan Dragon
Posted By: Maese_Leo (10/25/2012 9:01:18 PM)


I love it in my sac deck, right next to Grave Pact and Savra
Posted By: LegoLeonidas (10/30/2012 11:24:52 AM)


Gatherer works better in the Companion app!