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Thoughtseize is probably superior to Hymn to Tourach, unless you're playing against a simple burn deck or something like that. And it seems to me Duress is better than Hymn, too. And Cabal Therapy works with Thoughtseize/Duress but not Hymn to Tourach.
Posted By: makochman (9/14/2009 5:16:55 PM)


$61 avg as of today for 1
Posted By: sniper_ix (1/24/2013 8:29:39 PM)


Why is this rated higher than Duress?
Posted By: BeatYouOnce (7/26/2013 3:18:07 PM)


The best first turn discard spell.
Posted By: True_Smog (11/9/2009 9:43:21 AM)


Hymn and Thoughtseize are so close in comparison... Hymn wins when it's due to luck (go random pulls!). Overall, you want the choice and the value of seeing the hand is immense. Anything that can hit non-land permanents is great. Black's only answer to artifacts is discard.
Posted By: ThadeGelna (12/3/2009 5:21:08 PM)


Arguably the best discard spell out there, followed by hymn to tourach, then duress ( I placed Hymn second, simply because Hymn makes dredge players smile, and goddess knows how popular dredge is ). The only time I'd consider Hymn over Thoughtseize, is against burn.
Posted By: iaiji (5/26/2010 8:53:27 AM)


£19.95 for one black mana. That is one of the cheapest, most expensive cards anyone could play besides Black Lotus and other stuff I forget.
Posted By: Splizer (6/7/2011 7:02:13 AM)


Comparing this to Hymn to Tourach isn't really a good thing to do. Hymn is meant for a discard deck, this is meant for a control (or combo) deck. Two different uses, so no one is better than the other. I don't like discard-decks so much so I would prefer this in my WB or UB control deck.

Posted By: leomistico (8/16/2011 9:32:13 PM)


In more situations than not, Duress suffices, and that's why I traded my Thoughtsieze at the pre-release for three starter decks. :)
Posted By: sincleanser (8/18/2011 12:40:04 PM)


@Daerien: You perv!
Posted By: GengilOrbios (8/24/2011 7:05:43 AM)