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Ruling in the pro tour by a head judge, xenagos' ability IS a mana ability and CANNOT be responded to.
Posted By: jaelinfunk (10/15/2013 1:59:09 PM)



As of 16/10/2013 the rules are

605.1a An activated ability is a mana ability if it meets three criteria: it doesn’t have a target, it
could put mana into a player’s mana pool when it resolves, and it’s not a loyalty ability. (See
rule 606, “Loyalty Abilities.”)


I agree it can't be responded to, but the mana ability bit, nope.

Posted By: thought_jar (10/16/2013 5:06:14 AM)


@jaelin: guess you stumbled into an incompetent judge.
Posted By: Arachnos (10/18/2013 1:57:42 PM)


Amazing! But can we hurry up and make a simic or selesnya planeswalker.

I was thinking:

Simic Guy 3UG
+2: Return a creature to your hand. Add X mana to your mana pool in any combination to your mana pool where X is that creature's toughness.
-3: Put 5 +1/+1 counters on a creature you control.
-8: You get an emblem with, "Whenever a +1/+1 counter is removed from a creature you control, you may move it to another creature you control.
Starting Loyalty: 5
Posted By: tomato101 (10/20/2013 6:10:52 AM)


Xenagos is so nice. I don't mean just for Standard or Modern or Limited or EDH. I mean for everything.

If you're playing a decent amount of creatures, he can be free. He also gains loyalty, and since you've got creatures out, this doubly makes him hard to get rid of. But keeping creatures on the field isn't the easiest thing to do.

If you have no creatures, you can put out a creature to defend him and/or use it to attack. But 2RedGreen for a 2/2 haste creature isn't the most cost effective creature if that's what you're playing him for.

He starts at 3 loyalty, so he can't get his ultimate out too quickly. Also, he's a deranged Satyr. It wouldn't make sense if he was loyal to you at all!

All in all, I'd love to get 20 of them and snuggle with them in bed, and I think you should to...

Wait, you don't snuggle with you cards in bed?

Oh... well... uhh...
Posted By: Ferlord (11/4/2013 7:55:42 AM)


I want one more of him so I can put together one of my theme decks. The theme would be "A Strange First Date". It would feature Radha, Heir to Keld as she tries to escape Xenagos's amourous intentions. It will feature a cast of Keldons, Satrys, and Gorilla Berserkers. Giant Growths of both colors, a variety of variations of Fog that helps red and some lightning bolts wrap this up. Looks like it will be one hell of a party!
Posted By: Ill-Logical (11/15/2013 3:38:23 PM)


I just realized this guy makes naked satyr tokens
Posted By: coyotemoon722 (12/13/2013 1:45:59 PM)


Really? Nobody is going to say it? I'm going to have to be the one? *Sigh* fine...

Posted By: Osprey_93 (12/19/2013 12:27:39 AM)


I was wondering about his -6 ability; what happens to creatures who have X/X strength and toughness which is dependent on the X amount of mana you paid to play them (Mistcutter Hydra for example)?

I assume that they would just be exiled, but I wanted to see if there was an official answer to this.
Posted By: rlh7yc (12/26/2013 10:40:01 AM)


@leomistic hey, green blue has kiora, the crashing wave. how about Ajani, champion of Karametra? he's green white. wait, is this before jorney to nyx was realeased? oops, my time macine must have brought me to the wrong date.
Posted By: orzhov20 (12/27/2013 12:28:17 PM)