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@Donovan_Fabian

In a column on the WotC website, one of the 2011 designers gave the reason this Titan makes tokens. Turns out a sketch of the art for this guy came in befor they had figured out what his ability would be. And said sketch featured a bunch of zombies falling out of the Titan's gut. So it was decreed that this Titan would make Zombie tokens.

As to why he has Deathtouch, the design team wanted him to have a keyword ability, and due to the strength of making two Zombie tokens, they wanted one that wouldn't add too much power. Deathtouch was perfect for the job.
Posted By: A3Kitsune (7/29/2010 11:56:08 PM)
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In what deck would its use be maximised?
Posted By: Ph1005 (8/2/2010 9:16:10 PM)
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Combined with Mask of Riddles definitely would be scary
Posted By: River26 (8/5/2010 8:02:46 PM)
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U-caster, awful, awful idea. Absolutely dreadful. You're trading 10 damage across 3 creatures and 6 damage from yourself for 9 damage with evasion. Removal exists. I hate to bring up the "It dies to removal" argument, but in this case, it's quite a glaring point. If you Path Grave Titan, you still have 2 2/2s to attack your opponent with, but with DoDG, you're down 4 creatures and 6 life.
Posted By: Gomorrah (8/14/2010 9:58:24 PM)
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@Gomorrah - he's talking about waiting a turn so that you can create an additional 2 tokens by attacking, then saccing 3 tokens for a Demon of Death's Gate. So you're not trading 10 points of power across 3 creatures; you're trading 5 across 3 token creatures.
@Blkmgc81 - Primeval is worth more because, in constructed, the fact that he can search for any land makes him a combo boss. There are 4 or 5 competitive decks that he's a staple in, as well as numerous, numerous rogue decks.

Having said that, Grave Titan is definitely, definitely a great card. In limited he's just insane. It's always a huge pain in the rear when your opponent plays him. It's probably the one card that, on its own, can win a game. I remember the first time I played against in in limited - it was a very close stalemate with the opponent, who then played this. He proceed to completely overwhelm me in about 2 turns. When you talk about bombs in limited, this card could be the very definition.

In constructed he isn... (see all)
Posted By: JaxsonBateman (8/24/2010 6:36:56 AM)
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TERMINATE him and let Demigod of Revenge rule all of the spirit avatars!
Posted By: channelblaze (8/25/2010 8:54:15 PM)
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Powerful card, but like the Green and White titans I don't appreciate the obvious power of the card for its mana cost. Six mana and you bring a 6/6 deathtouch, sure, but does it really have to add TWO tokens over and over?
Posted By: Cyberium (9/15/2010 5:11:48 PM)
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I definatly want 2 of these for my zombie/skeleton deck. Best thing that could happen is turn one discard him somehow then turn two reanimate for a turn two 6/6 Deathtouch who starts your undead apocalypse with awesome looking art and an army of zombies.
Posted By: Rikiaz (9/21/2010 10:07:28 AM)
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The fact that he wasn't a zombie itself caused me some trouble (cough Noxious Ghoul , Call to the Grave cough) but now with Nim Deathmantle it's all sunshines, rainbows, death and decay.
Posted By: SinnerSage (9/25/2010 12:33:16 PM)
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@Rancorite:
Except that Grave TItan's triggered ability doesn't trigger on dealing damage. Read the card again. It says "Whenever Grave Titan enters the battlefield or attacks," which is not the same as dealing damage.

If you want an example of a triggered ability that would be benefited by double strike, look at Hypnotic Specter. Since the card explicitly says, "Whenever Hypnotic Specter deals damage to an opponent," then double strike, which causes a creature to deal damage twice, would cause Hypnotic Specter's ability to trigger twice. But Grave Titan's ability doesn't say that.

To break it down further, double strike doesn't change how many times a creature attacks. When you declare attackers, whether or not any of them have first or double strike, the creatures you are attacking with are considered by the game to be attacking creatures, logically enough. This is before anyone's dealt their damage-- you've just said, "I'm attacking with t... (see all)
Posted By: SpencerDub (10/12/2010 9:34:48 AM)
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