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Discard at instant speed makes up for the fact that your opponents can see it coming.
Posted By: A3Kitsune (1/28/2014 5:58:31 PM)
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@RedJaron

Actually, if they have one card in hand and you trigger this ability in response to them casting said card, it's still cast and you've wasted a heroic trigger; Just like a counterspell, responding to someone casting something occurs after the card has left their hand but before it's resolved. AS it's being cast you put something on the stack ahead of it.
Posted By: Yukikah (2/2/2014 10:02:56 PM)
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A heroic ability that directly leads to card advantage is nice, but discard effects are significantly worse when your opponent can see them coming and thus empty their hand out as quickly as possible.
Posted By: Purplerooster (1/28/2014 5:46:20 PM)
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Yes, your opponent may guess it could be coming a turn or two away, but that doesn't really change things. They can also guess it's coming if they know you're playing a discard deck as well. And their reactions aren't any better. You cast Duress, they can still respond with an instant to try to clear their hand first.

With this, you can trigger heroic in response to their casting a spell. If that's their only card, you've effectively countered it since they have to discard it before it's cast.

And the 1/3 body is significant. He's out of ping damage range and can even bounce a 2/2 in combat. Not a lot of downside here.
Posted By: RedJaron (1/31/2014 3:54:46 PM)
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So, anyone else curious as to why a minion of Ashiok is heroic?
Posted By: Coolclaytony (1/29/2014 2:11:02 PM)
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If your opponent empties their hand just because this guy hit the field, that's not all that bad. My favorite position in a game is when my opponent is top-decking, and I'm slowly regaining control of the board by pacing myself with my spells. It feels good to have 3 or 4 cards when my opponent has none. It also forces them to play whatever they draw, since they know it can be discarded at any time you choose, effectively locking them in top-deck mode. The text, "Whenever you cast a spell that targets Ashiok's Adept, each opponent discards a card", doesn't just do what it says. It's a mind game as well, and you can't overlook that. The 1/3 body is pretty nice too. There are quite a few 2 power creatures in BotG that can clog up the board early. This card seems like it was carefully crafted, and I like that.

3/5
Posted By: StreamHopper (2/4/2014 9:50:15 AM)
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Everything to do with Ashiok is so damn awesome!
Posted By: CaptElephant (2/27/2014 6:16:46 PM)
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Instant-speed buyback spells during an opponent's upkeep will soft-lock them out of the game. Unfortunately, when they draw instant-speed removal, you get 2-for-1'd.

3White Anoint
3White Change of Heart
2Blue Whim of Volrath
3Blue Clockspinning
2BlueBlue Mind Games
4Black Imps' Taunt
1RedRed Ghitu Firebreathing
4Red Searing Touch
4Green Elvish Fury

1Blue View from Above + a White or Blue or White or Black permanent
1Red Punishing Fire + Grove of the Burnwillows
1BlackRed Death Spark + Tortured Existence
Posted By: HuntingDrake (4/6/2014 11:45:12 PM)
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Target him with an instant after their draw when they're top decking and it's like a time walk. They still get to attack but hey, pseudo time walks are still time walks.
Posted By: Lazrbeams (5/30/2014 3:39:54 AM)
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