My understanding of Rule 607 ("Linked Abilities") suggests that the Isochron Scepter combo doesn't work. Examine 607.2a:
"If an object has an activated or triggered ability printed on it that instructs a player to exile one or more cards and an ability printed on it that refers either to 'the exiled cards' or to cards 'exiled with ,' these abilities are linked. The second ability refers only to cards in the exile zone that were put there as a result of an instruction to exile them in the first ability."
If I'm reading this correctly, this specifies that, even though the "cast spells" ability of an Isochron Scepter that was exiled by this is considered to be "printed on" the Myr Welder card, that ability actually wouldn't be considered linked to its imprint ability, so the "cast spells" ability won't do anything.
I'm really astonished this card didn't get any space in the Mirrodin Besieged FAQ.
Posted By:
IntentionallyWrong
(2/1/2011 10:50:45 AM)
Time Vault, he gains, Tap:gain a extra turn than he untaps each turn
Posted By:
KingCody77
(2/15/2011 11:07:15 PM)
@ Intentionallywrong
Card of the day for 2/4/2011, affirms your understanding of rule 607.2a my friend.
You can't use the ability gained from mimic vat or isochron's scepter to create copies of cards exiled with welder's ability.
@kryptnyt
Panoptic mirror would allow you to pay x and imprint a sorcery or instant onto the welder, but the welder only gains activated abilities. So it wouldn't have access to the triggered ability that allows you to cast the imprinted card.
Posted By:
roguepariah
(2/4/2011 6:59:51 AM)
Phyrexian Devourer. Gets the buff but not the sacrifice clause. Now just hope your opponent doesn't have removal on hand.
Posted By:
jsttu
(2/6/2011 11:37:33 AM)
@ MindEcho:
If the activated ability includes the name of the original card, it still works with Myr Welder. For example, if you had a Soliton in your graveyard and you exiled it, Myr Welder would then have {U}: Untap Myr Welder, not untap Soliton. Which would be funny.
As for the card itself, I love it. Works really well with two of the three Masticores.
Posted By:
raptorjesus69
(1/27/2011 9:00:24 PM)
I love fun cards like this. I used Oath of Druids to set it in motion and to have lots of treats to choose from
-Staff of Domination gives u the 1 untap to run anything u want and i know any 2 or more manna artifact is infi but that's no fun
-Lux Cannon
-Umezawa's Jitte a judge told me the -1/-1 and 2 life will work plz let me know if this is wrong
-there are a bunch of other fun charge counter mechanics to use.
-Forcefield
-Shell of the Last Kappa
-Nevinyrral's Disk
-plz add to my list if u find any fun artifacts to use with welder
Posted By:
mabo
(2/9/2011 5:39:49 PM)
Funny thing happened to me today i was playing magic when a myr welder imprinted a decimator web which seemed silly to me but when Palladium Myr and 2 galvinizer's appeared.... i was killed by a decimator web....
Posted By:
UndeadDR
(2/16/2011 9:33:44 AM)
Infinite combo engine once you get a Khalni Gem and Soliton imprinted.
Posted By:
A3Kitsune
(2/23/2011 10:54:31 PM)
@Aburaishi - Cards that are not on the battlefield are no longer subject to effects placed on them on the battlefield, unless the effect states otherwise. Therefore Myr Welder would not be able to imprint any of those cards via Liquimetal Coating.
@Manaboy - Etched Champion's protection from all colors is a triggered ability via Metalcraft, not an activated ability. Also, I believe you are thinking Platinum Angel, for not being able to lose the game, but that is a static ability, so that also would not work.
Sorry to rain on your parade guys.
Posted By:
Shivago
(3/15/2011 9:14:39 AM)
Here's something fun: go infinite with galvanizer and mana myrs, and then have this guy out and exile a Voltaic Key.
@flipsyalec
No, it's a linked ability. Myr Welder's ability basically states that whatever it exiles with it's tap ability, it gains access to it's activated abilities.
Posted By:
Zielheim
(10/15/2011 12:58:30 PM)