Treasonous Ogre
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this plus transcendence equals infinite red
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Posted By: the_nonaffiliated (6/3/2014 3:31:04 PM)
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@Gallega: If you have a way to destroy/sacrifice Transcendence at instant speed, you can actually get infinite Red and infinite life. Let's say you start at 3 life.

Step 1: Pay 3 life to Treasonous Ogre. (0 life, 1 mana)
Step 2: Transcendence triggers and resolves. (6 life, 1 mana)
Step 3: Pay 6 life to the Ogre. (0 life, 3 mana)
Step 4: Transcendence triggers twice; let one resolve. (6 life, 3 mana)
Step 5: While the other Transcendence trigger is on the stack, pay 6 life to the Ogre. (0 life, 5 mana)
Step 6: Repeat steps 4 and 5 until you have your desired amount of mana. (0 life, 1337 mana)
Step 7: With all of the Transcendence triggers on the stack, get rid of Transcendence. (0 life, 1337 mana)
Step 8: Let all of the Transcendence triggers resolve. (4014 life, 1337 mana)

Remember, you can't pay more life than you have.
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Posted By: Continue (6/3/2014 9:10:40 PM)
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I've always liked the combo engines that are good but not overpowered.
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Posted By: OlvynChuru (6/5/2014 12:15:51 PM)
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Repay in Kind
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Posted By: TheJord01 (6/6/2014 8:16:51 AM)
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I guess the ability is meant to be used so you are never the player with most life or tied with most life.
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Posted By: TheZombifier (6/6/2014 11:38:21 AM)
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@the_nonaffiliated: Not quite infinite. But a lot. You'd die eventually.

EDIT: @Continue: You are quite correct. Forgot that you can pay life gained from transcendence. :P

This + Platinum Angel, Phyrexian Unlife, or Lich (off the top of my head) is infinite red mana.

Even without the combos, life for mana is a resource swap that is pretty broken in formats like EDH.

For example (In EDH):

T4: Mountain, Treasonous Ogre, Pay 30 life, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth

And then you get dethrone triggers with Scourge of the Throne
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Posted By: Gallega123 (6/6/2014 6:38:55 PM)
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What in the world? This guy came out of nowhere. But he is very welcome.
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Posted By: Goatllama (6/6/2014 7:21:00 PM)
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Sneak Attack.
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Posted By: IronSpaghetti (6/7/2014 12:02:42 AM)
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Pay life for mana, and that's that? That's asking for trouble.
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Posted By: Kirbster (6/9/2014 12:30:06 AM)
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