How this does not have 5/5 baffles me.
In case some people don't trust what people here are saying about how good Tarmogoyf is, here's something to consider:
- In the top 8 decks in the 2009 legacy championships, Tarmogoyf was the most used creature, with 20 total copies being used. No other creature appeared even half as many times in those legacy top 8 decks.
- It's in such high demand that it costs more than the legendary Force of Will.
Posted By:
--Nate--
(12/18/2010 8:36:14 PM)
If they made a vanilla 4/4 or even a 5/5 for 
, would that sound fair at all? This card is 100$ because he only saw one printing and its clearly overpowered. Not broken, because that term is saved for cards that every deck needs to win in the format.
My rating = .5/5 because its just not balanced. I could understand why this past testing, but they underestimated how easy and fast this could grow.
Wizards needs to avoid last minute changes at all costs. It leads to this and Jace, the Mind Sculptor. You cant release a balance patch after its in stores. If you cant play-test a version dont release it.
Posted By:
TheWrathofShane
(11/9/2012 12:54:26 AM)
Goyf existence has caused alot of collateral damage to other decks as well. Anything graveyard oriented (Flashback, Dredge, Reanimator) now has to contend with powerful graveyard removal, like Bojuka Bog and/or Relic of Progenitus.
Ontop of this, it feels unfair to all the other grizzlybear 1Gs who have struggled/evolved over these years against each other only to have a new start-up dominate so entirely.
I hope by the time this futuresighted card sees print again other graveyard decks and grizzlybears can contend.
Posted By:
Lambi
(8/17/2010 1:49:32 AM)
Funny how this card was once ignored, and found in crap rare collections. . . . . .. now it goes for an arm and a leg
Posted By:
iaiji
(7/15/2010 11:17:47 AM)
@qwertycrap
Allegedly they actually were going to print Planeswalkers in Future Sight but had to push them off to the next set (Lorwyn). This is evidenced by the fact that the Planeswalkers have no connection whatsoever to the flavor of Lorwyn Block (one of the distinguishing points about the plane of Lorwyn is that there are no humans).
Posted By:
adrian.malacoda
(4/8/2012 3:34:48 PM)
@Ameisenmeister: You can't tell unless you played against it. In Mill/Dredge/Whatsoever, this pwns. In everything else, it still pwns (A little less, thou). I do understand your opinion. Remember, this started of as a 25 cent crap-rare. You can't see how good it is until you've played with or against it.
If this starts of as a 2/3 or 3/4, thats pretty much ok. Next turn it probaly grows, and you may be attacking the opponent for 4, or even 5 damage, excluding any turn 1 or 3 drops.
"It dies to removal lololololol!!" <- Your mom does too. About 90% of all creatures dies to removal. Why shouldn't this do?
Doesn't change the fact, that its a great card.
Also, it has synergy with really many cards. For example, a Lightning Bolt usually gives it +2/+2.
I do, however, think it costs too much (Yer, it should only be 1 mana, lololol) <- not like that. 50-70 dollars is too much to pay for a piece of paper, after my opinion.
Posted By:
Nikeyeia
(5/12/2010 11:41:27 AM)
Typical "money wins" card. Anyone not giving this a 5 is doing so out of spite or because of the awful artwork; hey I can understand both. But this card really is in the highest tier of creatures, an indisputable fact.
Even Wizards admitted that printing this was a mistake...and yet they have done nothing further about it, huh. I imagine the outrageous market price has something to do with it (hint: it boosted Future Sight pack and box sales all by itself; so of course they aren't going to ban/restrict it. That would be stupid if they wanted to make more money.)
The good news is, combo decks become more powerful the further back you go (Extended -> Legacy, etc) so Goyf may be in several decklists, but there are many many more in which he isn't an auto-4-of, proving that while he can compete against other powerful strategies, he isn't the "auto-win" card he's made out to be.
The real reason this card is so powerful is that it grows with the game, and you can splash for it in any deck... (see all)
Posted By:
Atmos
(3/4/2010 2:06:24 PM)
With all the weird stuff they did in Future Sight, I'm surprised more cards didn't turn out this broken.
Posted By:
ClockworkSwordfish
(2/15/2010 5:42:51 PM)
Let's all pray his price will go down when he gets reprinted in Modern Masters, maybe $40 or so?
Posted By:
Gcrudaplaneswalker
(4/28/2013 7:35:33 PM)