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From the rulings:
If the permanent that caused the ability to trigger leaves the graveyard before the ability resolves (because it's a token and it ceased to exist, or because a spell or ability removed it from the graveyard), the ability will still resolve. The opponent will have the option to pay 3 life. But whether or not that player pays the life, nothing will be returned to the battlefield.

You might be wrong there...
Rule 410.10d
"permanents that leave play at the same time see everything that leaves play at the same time they do"

So his ability would trigger for each thing dying (under opponent control). The same is true for Deathgreeter and friends.
Posted By: OmegaSerris (7/4/2011 4:47:03 AM)


I think the "from play" clause was left out because it is not needed; permanents by definition are cards that are in play. So cards in the hand, library, graveyard, etc are not permanents, they're just cards.
Posted By: Arvesius (2/5/2009 11:09:50 AM)


The Traumatize idea won't work. No card in your deck or your hand is a "permanent you control".
Posted By: agalloch (11/1/2009 1:06:26 PM)


I love this card - I have a Grixis deck called Speed Demon, using losts of mana acceleration (Urza's Filter is surprisingly good, as is Drastic Revelation), but there's a better way to get this into play. Turn two, play Rakdos Carnarium or Dimir Aqueduct, turn three play Exhume. Then get Defiler of Souls into play sharpish.

To end a multiplayer game quickly: Pox or BOOM/Bust = good times, good game
Posted By: defenestrator (9/4/2009 3:29:39 PM)


The only real place for this card is in multiplayer, but it looks very fun to play with large groups.
Posted By: RaikouRider (12/21/2008 12:08:58 PM)


redmagic123... Even without the whisper silk this guy looks hard to take out...
A, he's black, which makes him immune to ninety percent of black creature kill.
B, he's big enough to take two bolts and walk away

Although there is always that pesky blue stuff. (Smile)
Posted By: Zoah (10/26/2010 12:03:08 AM)


@ blckwtrpark

Rule 410.3
If multiple abilities have triggered since the last time a player received priority, each player, in APNAP order, puts triggered abilities he or she controls on the stack in any order he or she chooses. (See rule 103.4.)

103.4. If multiple players would make choices and/or take actions at the same time, the active player (the player whose turn it is) makes any choices required, then the next player in turn order (usually the player seated to the active player's left) makes any choices required, followed by the remaining nonactive players in turn order. Then the actions happen simultaneously. This rule is often referred to as the "Active Player, Nonactive Player (APNAP) order" rule.

In short: it means you look at the person who's turn it is and then look at the next person (clock-wise or counter clockwise, whatever order you went in) and the first person who you see with Prince of Thralls first gets the permanent.

The player who sacrif... (see all)
Posted By: Ashamed (5/25/2010 9:40:00 PM)


Now this is a story all about how, my life got turned upside down, I'd like to take a minute and just sit right here, I'll tell you how I became the fresh Prince of Thralls...
Posted By: 001010011100101110 (9/7/2011 11:02:41 AM)


im pretty sure that putting the permanent in play under your control is effectively like playing it again. so if it was a creature enchantment, i think you can choose the new target for em..

and i think other 'comes into play' triggers go off as well, right? imprints, cascades, so on?
Posted By: spoonish (7/29/2009 11:10:22 AM)


I have a question, i was recently in a casual game where two different people had prince of thralls in play and a third player who was an opponent of both sacrificed a creature. I would assume that both prince of thralls abilities would trigger, causing the controller to have to choose to lose life twice, but who gets priority on the steal? Or do they both trigger simuateously? And if so does that create a copy of the sacrificed creature? I'm terribly confused. Also I once equipped him with unscythe killer of king, and blocked to kill a creature. Does unscythe trigger first overriding the possibility to steal it with prince?
Posted By: blckwtrpark (11/5/2009 5:16:24 PM)


Gatherer works better in the Companion app!