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Why are so many people close minded about this card just because it's a vampire? Let me remind you, you can play vampire creatures outside of a vampire deck. Throw this guy into a regular monoblack or part black deck and he works out great, ability gives a good advantage, and he can be thrown out very early thanks to eldrazi tokens
Posted By:
IshubarashI
(6/19/2010 2:22:34 PM)
What is so hard to understand about his ability flavour?
He is a vampire, and he turns his victims into vampires, it's the most basic, common, well known folk lore about vampires.
He rocks, he makes the process of killing your opponents strongest creatures and raising them to serve you a whole lot shorter, it's a doom bolt; rise from the grave (vampire style) all packed in a 3mana cost (the 2 spells would cost 7 mana combined) creature ability that also works on blacks and can be cast each round!
GOD DAMN I want this one for my vamp deck!
He can even steal Eldrazi!
5 stars!
Posted By:
Sironos
(5/24/2010 5:19:25 AM)
turn 8 is too late to start on a good board position, but it is perfect to turn a good one into a spectacular one
Posted By:
darkfury
(12/10/2009 3:37:46 PM)
A powerhouse for Vampire decks, and he has that brutal kill ability. Not as incredible as Avatar of Woe's, but is still a massive threat when it hits the field. 4.5/5
Posted By:
StealthShadow
(5/2/2011 8:20:39 PM)
Turn 8 is a bit too late to just start making a good board position.
Posted By:
Lestat13
(9/26/2009 3:03:46 PM)
From the comments it looks like some people are misunderstanding this card. You don't destroy your own creatures. You destroy your opponent's creatures and you get the tokens. Another example of a high mana cost creature with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer.
Posted By:
achilleselbow
(6/22/2010 7:01:07 PM)
Okay, first off, I am a hardcore Vampires player. Seriously, I traded half my rares (Progenitus, Iona, etc.) for a Nocturnus when it was legal and I was stupid. I love Vampires. And, flavor-wise, I love this card. He is the consummate "turn into Vampires" card, and is a beautiful addition to many decks. The problem?
He's a terrible Vampire.
Don't get me wrong, I do like him. But seriously? 7 for a 5/5? Vampires have already won or lost by turn 5, and if you miss a second land drop you scoop! I wouldn't be whining like this if I thought he was unfix-able, but he can clearly be fixed by making him a 2/2 for 5, effectively taking the place of a Bloodwitch! Even a 1/1 for 5 would be decent (maybe not, though, he might need flying), if not as flavorful. So, the lesson? Don't put him in Vampires. There are probably other decks you can use him in, or if you want to try Vamps EDH, he might do okay as a general!
Bottom line: 4/5, but 1/5 as a vampire.
Posted By:
Shadoflaam
(2/20/2011 3:20:52 PM)
Awesome Creature.
Not sure why a few folks here dont seem to get how good it is....not a tourney card, I'd think...but casual its a killer.
I have him in a deck with 4x Powerstone, 1x Sol Ring and 4x Thran Dynamo, so hes coming out pretty soon most of the time. turn 5 or so.
But hes basically just removal in the deck I have him in because the deck is more about ripping the opponents deck to sheds (removing their cards from the game in mass).
Seems like a deck could be built around him and Visara pretty easily.
btw. if youre not getting him out and using him till turn 8, your deck is too slow. Accelerate...
Posted By:
donjohnson
(7/27/2010 11:33:04 PM)
I play a vampire deck, and couldn't afford Vampire Nocturnus. So I settled for one of these. Nice trump card to look forward to getting, but I've only been able to play him once. I'd say he was worth it though. With all the creature destruction though, he won't stay out very long without a whispersilk cloak.
Posted By:
StreamHopper
(12/5/2009 10:55:30 AM)
how the FRICK did you get out Kalitas before they had a single creature?!? your friend must suck..
Posted By:
Htoth3izzO
(1/20/2010 2:03:30 PM)