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I love Hagrid Diabetes. It's my favorite ally besides Ondu Cleric
Posted By: QAZAZ (11/14/2009 6:22:47 PM)
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Ghostway
Posted By: Belz_ (10/24/2009 10:33:45 AM)
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Clearly the best Ally. Can win with Allies on turn 4 without attacking using this guy. Just need to run Harabaz Druid, some cheap white Allies, and Ghostway/Join the Ranks. Unchecked, you can cause enough life loss to take out a 5-6 man game by turn 7. Only downside is that you'll be enemy #1 when you start handing out little life loss presents around the table.
Posted By: C5r1a5z0y (3/20/2011 8:26:48 PM)
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In a proper Ally deck, this guy can finish them off the turn you drop him if you use Harabaz Druid and Join the Ranks.
Posted By: JFM2796 (8/1/2011 11:15:32 AM)
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This + kicked Rite of Replication = dead opponent?
Posted By: Jeckman (9/25/2009 4:48:13 PM)
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If two Hagras enter an empty battlefield at the same time, then each one's triggered ability ("Whenever an ally...") is triggered twice (by itself and the respective other), for a total of 2 x 2 = 4 triggers.

For 5 Hagras entering, that'd be 5 x 5 = 25 triggers amongst each other. The one already in play adds another 5, so you're looking at a total of 30 trigger events, and hence, 30 copies of the ability's effect ("You may have target player lose...") on the stack.

At resolution, that's the 30 x 6 = 180 life loss sliverlord5000 was talking about.

For PastProphet's example above, you'd have 6 x 6 = 36 triggers total, each ally triggering 6 times (for 2 x 6 = 12 "Hagra triggers", or 72 life loss)
Posted By: herbomatic (10/10/2009 1:48:37 AM)
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so, I Warp World and flip 2 Hagra Diabolist, and 4 other allies...
6 allies enter, each triggers 6 times, for 6 life = 216
?? ?
or would it be
2 (hagra) x 6 = 12 triggers
plus 4 (other allies) x 2 (hagra) = 8 triggers
=20 triggers, times 6 (allies) = 120 ?

I think I'm gonna take my calculator with me on Friday :)

Posted By: PastProphet (10/6/2009 11:53:01 PM)
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180 points of lost life, to be precise

assuming you only had 1 out before
Posted By: sliverlord5000 (9/25/2009 6:37:09 PM)
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This is the only semi-playable black ally, and even he costs too much.
Posted By: achilleselbow (7/23/2010 2:23:58 PM)
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For each that would come into play, 6 triggered abilities would happen (its own ability and the other abilities) and since 5 come into play, 5x6. For each trigger, 6 damage is dealt (since 6 are in play) 5x6x6=180.

Therefore, 180 damage is dealt.
Posted By: Esprel (12/19/2009 9:27:41 PM)
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