I'm very surprised we don't call them the Power Ten with this one around... Then again, before Volataic Key this was not as broken. Still, what were they thinking when they made this?
Posted By:
kazenpaus
(11/24/2011 4:15:39 AM)
Oath of Druids + this + Myr Welder would be really funny, if you flipped the Vault before the Welder.
Posted By:
Salient
(1/11/2012 7:21:27 PM)
The wording of the card seems to indicate to me that no matter what trick you can think up i.e. twiddle or Voltaic Key you still have to skip your turn to untap it. It says "to untap it, you must skip a turn"- to me that says simply there is no way around skipping a turn to untap it. However, these old wordings are weird, it doesn't specify it has to be your NEXT turn?? In other words can I take 3 turns and then skip 3 turns with something like twiddle?
I'm further confused by this: "10/1/2008 This wording means that you no longer end up skipping multiple turns if you find a way to activate the ability multiple times. "
That seems to say tricks work with it favorably to the player, but it's worded even more strangely than the card itself and seems to contradic the key word "must" in the card.
Posted By:
ScaryKoolaid
(3/14/2012 9:55:47 AM)
"Look ma, no errata!"
Posted By:
Fireballmage
(5/2/2012 2:58:57 PM)
Phasing maybe? Makes it so that it isn't just the straight up lockout with two cards.
Posted By:
TheManakinTransfer
(6/15/2012 12:16:17 AM)
Holy shit, I don't think I've ever seen anything this broken, you can have infinate turns without ever letting you opponents play and this is the only card you need that costs 2$ or more (Still a 350$ combo but with good reason)
Swamp
Memnite/Ornithopter/Phyrexian Walker/Shield Sphere
Culling the weak
Time Vault
Voltaic Key
or 2 dark rituals
or
Mountian
Memnite/Ornithopter/Phyrexian Walker/Shield Sphere
Infernal Plunge
Pyretic Ritual/Seething Song
and many many more, this is probably the most broken card of all time, it should be banned in everything, lol, if you cast it and keep it out and don't win, you should quit magic, N/O
Posted By:
imsully2
(6/17/2012 10:56:24 AM)
no funny rulings for untapping this thing are necessary. Just let it untap as normal and skip your next turn, then tap it to activate it's ability and just simply have rings of brighthearth in play to copy the activated ability. Voila! Clean. Simple. No arguing over whether if you skip your turn if it untaps or not, because you just did. You merely net gained an extra turn by copying the ability.
Posted By:
Penguin_Master
(6/19/2012 2:37:56 PM)
This card used to not be broken. They fixed it for awhile where it put counters on it when you skipped a turn. To gain a turn you had to remove a counter. It made the card worthless and easily stopped if it was untapped without skipping a turn. They reverted back to the original intent of the card making it one of the most powerful in the game. Glad I bought one when it was no good, just wish I got more of them then.
Posted By:
amberbock
(6/29/2012 2:02:45 PM)
I will be damned if anyone tries to convince me the new art is better than the old after looking at something like this. But maybe you just have to see it in person to understand?
Posted By:
Ihateworking
(7/21/2012 10:45:06 PM)
If they would just give it shroud, it would be a lot more balanced. And see a lot less play, of course.
Posted By:
OrangeAir
(7/31/2012 11:58:14 AM)