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A friend of mine held off a Grave Titan with one of these at the Prerelease. Killing the titan + wipe out the zombies + comes back next turn all made it quite unfavorable for his opponent to attack. Shame about the high cost to return, though.
Posted By:
yesnomu
(7/23/2010 5:54:52 PM)
This is essentially a tweak of Shard Phoenix for the same CC. The extra power and toughness and additional point of damage are nice, but the much greater cost to return it as well as the fact that you can't sacrifice it whenever you want probably make it somewhat worse.
Posted By:
achilleselbow
(7/21/2010 6:43:49 PM)
@ DacenOctavio
Your Rockslide Elemental would survive that.
- Celestial Purge
- You bolt the bird in response.
- In response Sparkmage taps and targets himself.
- In order of what's about to go down we have Sparkmage, then bolt, then purge.
-You both pass priority. Sparkmage's ability resolves. He goes to the graveyard as a state based action. (The next time someone would get priority, which is the very next thing that happens, players getting priority as objects on the stack resolve).
- That tiggers Rockslide's ability. It resolves and becomes 3/3.
- Bolt resolves. Phoenix goes to the graveyard. Both Rockslide's and Phoenix's abilities trigger at the same time, so you get to choose in what order they resolve. You have Rocky get another counter before Birdlips blows everything to hell, so the elemental hangs on by the skin of his 4/4 teeth.
Now, the art! All of Raymond Swanland's Magic art is heavily contrasted, which is perfect when you're looking at a small picture like this. The... (see all)
Posted By:
Wraique
(7/28/2010 3:22:03 AM)
This card is incredibly undderrated. A guy at my FNM played this in some sort of red control deck and won.
Posted By:
U-caster
(8/27/2010 8:45:01 AM)
@PhyrexianLobbyist: No it doesn't. Baneslayer survives thanks to First Strike meaning the Phoenix does no combat damage.
Posted By:
Chosen_of_the_Dark_Sun
(7/9/2010 3:29:00 PM)
beautiful art and a brutal card to use as the archenemy (It often stirrs discussions on whether they should attack with anything big enough to kill it or not, since it'll often wipe the weenie player's board)
Posted By:
exterion
(7/11/2010 3:23:46 AM)
I'm a pretty casual player, as are my friends.
So, when I equipped this guy with a Basilisk Collar and sacced him,
I was very happy to wipe the board clean, gain my life, and laugh.
However, I read this card carefully, and I have a question:
Does him dying remove the Collar before he deals the damage when sent to the graveyard?
I'm perplexed at the order it's working in.
Posted By:
infernox10
(7/26/2010 1:04:02 AM)
Due to the new rules on deathtouch and lifelink being static abilities, basilisk collar does give both abilities even though the phoenix goes to the graveyard. since it's an effect that says when it's put in the graveyard, as it's being put in the graveyard, the collar would still be attached, and the zone-change rules checks the phoenix's stats/abilities as it moves or before it moved (not sure which), before the equipment becomes unequipped.
also, two phoenixes on the field would kill baneslayer if she tried to kill one.
Posted By:
sliverfan
(7/26/2010 7:34:21 AM)
@sliverfan
Yes, you are correct. The ability checks the state of the Phoenix before it went to the graveyard. Otherwise, tokens could never have somewhere-to-graveyard abilities because they wouldn't exist.
@Cyberium
Silverfan has it right. But if you play that way, you better have indestructible creatures of your own.
Posted By:
iondragonx
(7/31/2010 4:07:48 PM)
Old Counter-Phoenix uses Phoenix, Squee, Masticore, and Forbid, abuses the recurring power :P
@MD
I believe not, since the Phoenix's death is what triggers it, and that alone removes the Collar from it.
@Sliverfan
Ok, thx for the correction. I'm still not versed with the new rules yet. That makes the Phoenix so much more versatile :)
Posted By:
Cyberium
(8/3/2010 11:51:39 AM)