Stoic Rebuttal (Scars of Mirrodin) - Community - Gatherer

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Hey, if Wizards keeps going in this direction, maybe one day we'll get a Cancel that costs

. Vex doesn't count. That's the only way the metagame will shift enough for blue players to legitimately claim that Counterspell is necessary.

Also: no one has any right to complain about not having Counterspell anymore. We gave you Mana Leak, we gave you Deprive, which is conditionally better than counterspell, and now here's 2-mana counters #9-12 for your draw-go standard deck.

Also also: Mattmedia is correct. Once the spell is cast its cost has been paid and cannot be changed, even if Metalcraft no longer applies when the spell is on the stack. You wouldn't have to pay an extra

to resolve the spell.

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Posted By: Minus_Prime (9/27/2010 6:40:07 PM)

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Cancel with the possibility of being counterspell? Fair enough!

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Posted By: Anggul (10/2/2010 1:55:06 PM)

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At worse Cancel, at best Counterspell. Stoic Rebuttal, I think I love you.

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Posted By: RedAtrocitus (4/13/2011 5:28:58 PM)

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@gelleetin: i would say not because it is a cost, once you have paid the cost that is it, you cannot re-act to that (Costs and mana abilities don't stack), if the spell said that if you control 3 artifacts you may cast this for UU then i think it might be a different story, because when the spell goes to check that there is 3 artifacts, and there is only 2, then it would be countered itself, although i am little skeptical on this as well....

Judge?

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Posted By: Mattmedia (9/26/2010 4:36:58 AM)

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Well, i guess it's as good countermagic as it is needed to be. Bit more power and variety - and those fun pre-onslaught "i counter/bounce everything you play, make you discard the rest and then peck you to death with my Storm Crow" decks gonna reappear. Control is not all about countermagic, ya know...

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Posted By: Gavrilo (9/28/2010 4:39:42 AM)

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Why can't I find more of these? I only have 1 after all the packs I've bought!

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Posted By: Yozuk (10/6/2010 4:45:14 PM)

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This is as good as a Counterspell reprint in most Standard decks right now, especially those focusing specifically on Scars of Mirrodin and Mirrodin Besieged. This could be easily playable by turn 2 with Ornithopter, Spidersilk Net, Memnite, and Accorder's Shield all in Standard.

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Posted By: Askthespartan (10/15/2010 7:20:17 PM)

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I believe Stoic belongs to blue. They are cold. They are calculating. They want to rule in other means. The pain of flesh are for those with feeling. Take for example Master of Etherium. (The Card And Not The Person Who Types Like This Retard Manner). Cold, seemingly ***ed off, an Artifact and...holding a baby.
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BUT for the card itself, I agree. Wixards would never make another Counterspell without some strings attach. Such as Deprive. It has the CMC as Counterspell, but the catch is that you have to bring back an Island to your hand.
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Posted By: Jokergius (10/21/2010 6:39:12 PM)

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