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Definitely running them in fours.
Posted By: WarioMan (6/19/2011 3:36:25 PM)
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He might benefit you more than your opponents, but he still benefits them, too. Given how many other mana acceleration options green has, I'll pass on this one. The net benefit (benefit to you minus benefit to everyone else) isn't worth the card.

@Myrofkoth, this will only get you a first-turn Superion if your opponent was nice enough to cast it for you. This gives you no mana the turn you summon him, because by the time you're able to summon him, the beginning of your precombat main phase has already passed.
Posted By: sonorhC (7/22/2011 11:04:54 PM)
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@spirit_of_blue

Actually, its not cheating. The mana goes into their pool no matter what. This is an automatic action. This is similar to creatures that remained tapped unless its owners pays mana (or life, or...). Nobody declares the trigger goes on the stack, then pays the price or leaves it tapped. They just do it. True, you may hear a person say, "Paying 1 to untap Brass Gnat." However, the majority of the time, they just take care of it.

In this case, the player has the mana to use however they wish. This isn't a creature token that they must have, or an extra card that they should have drawn. The mana is in their pool. If they don't use the mana (just like if they tapped one too many lands), they lose it. What would happen if you forgot your own trigger? You would lose the mana. The game doesn't back up because you weren't paying attention.

You may call it unsportsman like, but I don't waste my time making sure my opponent remembers non critical effects.
Posted By: Vlad74205 (5/11/2013 6:35:05 PM)
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@Zoah, you can use him to cast creatures, it says beginning of the precombat main phase, not upkeep. So he gives you mana and it stays until you go to the Combat Phase.
Posted By: doombladez (2/12/2013 3:07:13 PM)
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Nearly every card in Time Spiral block was a throwback to at least one previously printed card.

This card references Eladamri's Vineyard and is part of the "Magus" super cycle of rare creatures. The Future Sight part of the cycle focuses on powerful enchantments, even matching the mana cost; the others are Magus of the Future, Magus of the Abyss, Magus of the Moon, and Magus of the Moat.

The Time Spiral part of the cycle focuses on powerful artifacts: Magus of the Candelabra, Magus of the Disk, Magus of the Mirror, Magus of the Jar, and Magus of the Scroll. The Planar Chaos cycle focuses on powerful lands: Magus of the Bazaar, Magus of the Coffers, Magus of the Tabernacle, autocar... (see all)
Posted By: Missile_Penguin (7/9/2013 6:03:48 PM)
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He sows goodwill. Plus, if you aren't playing this with a handful of fatties you are doing it wrong. You need to make sure you profit more than your opponent from this. The political aspect is great for EDH, too.
Posted By: ClockworkSwordfish (6/17/2011 9:41:44 AM)
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Turn 1: Magus of the Vineyard
Turn 2: Natural Order into Progenitus
Posted By: Magus_of_Farts (8/14/2013 11:54:33 AM)
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@ endersblade
My opponents NEVER seem to remember he's in play. In EDH, I'll drop him first turn, everyone will use it that turn, and the next they completely forget he's there. I don't remind them, not my job!

I am sorry, but it is your job! Unless there would be word "may" in text of card, you are responsible for correct processing of this effect. Literally, you are putting {G}{G} into that player's mana pool at begining of precombat phase and if you would omit it, on tournament you would receive warning from judge and if possible game will have to be returned back to status when mistake was done. If you will not add {G}{G} to opponents mana pool repeatedly, you will receive game loss from judge.

Controller of this card is completely responsible for this non-optional effect. Even if not playing on tournament, but just with friends, it is immoral cheating not adding mana on purpose.

@ MacBizzle
No, your example with Stuffy Doll is unrelated to discussed matter... (see all)
Posted By: spirit_of_blue (6/13/2012 7:34:17 AM)
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I love this. My opponents NEVER seem to remember he's in play. In EDH, I'll drop him first turn, everyone will use it that turn, and the next they completely forget he's there. I don't remind them, not my job! I take full advantage of it though! Works great in my Omnath EDH deck!
Posted By: endersblade (7/27/2011 7:31:13 PM)
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Joraga Treespeaker won't help opponents.
Posted By: lorendorky (6/17/2011 8:47:39 AM)
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Gatherer works better in the Companion app!

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