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Kryptnyt is right, EvilCleavage is wrong. As the controller of both triggered abilities' source, you decide the order they go on the stack. Just put the discard on top of the gating and you're good.
Posted By: Bulhakas (5/6/2011 12:05:25 PM)


Because you put this in your deck you can plan on the discard. There are many ways to get advantage from forced discard.
Posted By: tavaritz (7/25/2012 2:34:27 AM)


This guy is a Johnny Beatstick. This, Skeleton Shard, and Aether Adept. KKkkkkombo Breaker.
Posted By: TheWrathofShane (3/8/2012 3:16:37 PM)


You can choose to discard before the return.
Posted By: Kryptnyt (10/1/2010 5:08:27 PM)


Doesn't really lool like a croc; it looks more like a giant lizard, sort of.
Posted By: SavageBrain89 (7/10/2009 12:04:47 PM)


I Love Crocodiles Great Job Kev
Posted By: MasterOfEtherium (5/23/2009 12:08:35 AM)


This guy sucks. Say you play this guy and he's the last card in your hand. Nice, you get a 4/4 chunk, not common in Blue or Black. But then you have to return a creature to your hand. Oh, but wait that's not all! Then you have to discard the creature that went back to your hand. This guy sucks. The only way I think he could be good is if you had a Blue or Black token in play that you could afford to lose.
Posted By: EvilCleavage (9/13/2010 12:44:47 PM)


Meh. I don't feel strongly about it one way or another.
Posted By: Mudora (4/9/2010 10:23:05 AM)


use this with madness cards.

grave scrabbler negates both the return to hand and discard, AND tacks on a raise dead affect. net result: extra 4/4 on field 1 less card in opponent's hand. Effectively you're +2 cards, one of which is a 4/4 beatstick.

This does require 6 mana however so your opponent might not have a hand, and if they do it's probably a counter or go for the throat.

6 mana for a 4/4 cantrip that requires other cards is the type of thing that is gilbic.
Posted By: casual_melvin (9/18/2013 6:49:54 PM)


Gatherer works better in the Companion app!