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Look at the large art to really see the cranial cigarettes http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/daily/features/feat231b_mentalvapors.jpg
Posted By: lorendorky (1/22/2013 11:48:41 PM)


You need to hit, on average, 2 or more times with the encoded creature in order to make this card better than an upfront Mind Rot. But discard is always good in limited, especially since there's zero risk of running into a Loxodon Smiter this time around.
Posted By: ThePinkBaron (1/22/2013 6:57:38 PM)


How can this rating lower than Mind Rot ? Do not underestimate Cipher mechanic. This card won me at the prerelease many times.

T3 : Have creature unblockable like Deathcult Rogue
T4 : Use Mental Vapors and encode it with your creature. Attack - Opponent discard two cards.

Cipher could repeat every turn after that so pretty much they almost need to discard every turn unless they kill your creature. That means you will have card advantage every turn for 4 CMC. This is very good in the control deck.

Posted By: Ike38 (1/26/2013 5:09:15 PM)


Cipher cards, when played right, will always have double of the effect written on the card. They are priced fairly. The more important problem here is that this poor lady is obviously addicted to inhaling people.
Posted By: Goatllama (1/22/2013 3:02:33 PM)


I like to imagine that Snape just died and Harry is pulling out his thoughts to use in the Pensive, and we're in some bizarre fanfiction that Harry's a girl and then I get grossed out and stop thinking about it
Posted By: Superllama12 (1/23/2013 2:56:45 PM)


"Yo man, you want a hit of this?"

It's not too bad, turning a strong creature into a specter might not always be worth 4 mana but it will ruin your opponent's day a lot more assuredly than Last Thoughts.
Posted By: Totema (1/22/2013 8:22:02 PM)


At 4CMC, they could have at least made the discarding random.
Posted By: BongRipper420 (1/23/2013 1:24:19 AM)


Same as Last Thoughts. Overcost by 1 mana. Considering this is an UNCOMMON card, I feel they could have gotten away with this being easily a 1Black or 1BlackBlack spell card, instead of a 3Black.

Cipher has been ruined in this set....

@ Gostllama: As it is right now, they NEED to activate 3 times or their overcost, since the cards that are THREE manacost that ALREADY play it 2 times without having to hit... and they are RARELY, if EVER played. Oh, and the only cared you are ever guaranteed x2 Effects is Invisible Stalker, and that is only if they don't have the card that cancels Hexproof. Oh, also, their 3 cost relitives? ARE COMMON AS WELL! So don't use rarity as an excuse.
Posted By: AlphaWolfs (1/22/2013 6:36:08 PM)


Yummy. Can always help to discard cards. *said sarcastically*

Actually, this and Liliana's Caress could work with the Dissension Rakdos.
Posted By: handoflazav_414 (1/24/2013 12:47:55 PM)


I am sure that Cipher has been playtested. I am sure that Wizards doesn't want to obsolete Mind Rot and Divination. I think it possible that these Cipher cards would be much better than Mind Rot and Divination if they cost 2U or 2B. The kind of creature you are going to try to Encode onto is GOING to have Trample, Flying and/or other types of evasion to get in that Red Zone.

Because Wizards is thinking about what KIND of creature you're GOING to use with these, they don't care about costing these fair enough to turn Any Old Gruul Ragebeast or for Pete's Sake Krenko, Mob Boss into some kind of Super Ninja Assassin of Evil Conspiracy and Secret Stuff. They want to cost these so that they are fair on cards like Sakashima's Student, or Ninja of the Deep Hours, or Invisible Stalker.

Alright, let's see if these are well-costed FOR THAT. Hm. Well, it looks like they might just be half-a... (see all)
Posted By: DarthParallax (1/25/2013 7:54:04 PM)


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