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@forgeling: Technically, no. If you can't deal one damage with other sources, or throw charge counters on this with something else, Rod of Ruin would actually be better.
Despite it not being STRICTLY better, though, it IS far better. Please, nobody ever run Rod of Ruin.
Posted By: littlebeast (12/9/2009 2:01:09 AM)


The german version just gets counters through combat damage. :´-(
Posted By: Ameisenmeister (8/5/2010 5:48:27 AM)


Oh yes, my Manabarbs deck has a new recruit.
Posted By: blindthrall (1/22/2011 2:01:38 PM)


Just get two or more of these in play at once. One will charge the other every time.
Posted By: iondragonx (10/16/2009 7:35:31 AM)


why is this rated so high? it's one of the clunkier cards from the mirrodin block...
Posted By: metalevolence (4/14/2011 10:42:55 PM)



It says 'other than Talon of Pain', doesn't that mean permanents named Talon of Pain don't generate one another?
Posted By: SorianSadaskan (2/9/2010 9:50:20 PM)


Strictly better than Rod of Ruin.
Posted By: Forgeling (8/26/2009 9:26:55 AM)


Slightly confusing phrasing on the card, but only for multiplayer purposes.
Whenever a source you control other than Talon of Pain deals damage to an opponent, put a charge counter on Talon of Pain.
So if you have a single source that deals damage to two opponents how many counters do you get? Say I used a fireball on two players as an example.
I could really see it going either way. The spell is a single damage event, it takes up one space on the stack and can be countered with a single counterspell card. But each opponent takes damage separately. A card like pariah only redirects the damage from one of them, so it looks like two separate events from that angle.
Posted By: EbTesap (11/26/2010 6:38:12 PM)


I love this card , i play it in a green blue deck that's have not a lot of removal but unblockable creatures and it does it work even if i think this card is made for red burning deck .
Posted By: MojoVince (3/30/2010 5:11:56 AM)


@SorianSadaskan: No, since when a card uses it's own name, it means . If it didn't get counters from other Talon of pains, it would've said something along the lines of "Whenever a source you control other than permanents named Talon of Pain deals damage to an opponent, put that many charge counters on Talon of Pain".
Posted By: exterion (9/5/2010 1:08:29 PM)


Gatherer works better in the Companion app!