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this has counters though, with the new proliferate ability in SoM and with stuff like doubling season, gilder bairn, etc... this can actually get pretty deadly.
Posted By: ChampionofSquee (10/10/2010 11:14:32 AM)


pumaman83, if your deck is so bad that you were planning on depending on this card by itself, you sorely lack creativity. Anything dangerous enough to force a removal is alright by me, and late game, this can come out of nowhere an finish an opponent. Well, not really nowhere. I'm sure they were watching it slowly become enormously deadly.

For some perspective, if you're using a burn deck, where this would belong, by turn 13 you have about 9 lands and probably nothing in your hand but low cost burns. If this card, left on the field that long, ISN'T enough to finish your heavily burned opponent off, you, my friend, have failed miserably. Not the card.

Can also work with Sun Titan.

Edit: Actually, I suppose you could build a deck solely out of this card so long as you had protection for it. Couple 4 o' these with blue for counters, or white for autocard multiverseid="19056... (see all)
Posted By: Aburaishi (11/27/2010 9:06:44 PM)


Heh. I was just about to stop using mine when they printed Quest for Pure Flame.

EDIT:Shrine of Burning Rage. Now I've stopped using it. Pumaman's right, this card is bad, I know from using it way longer than I should have. The deck that was using it won, just never with this card.
Posted By: blindthrall (5/9/2011 11:29:58 PM)


For some prespective - if I play this turn three for three mana, then on turn six use it for three more mana. I will accomplish for a total wait of six turns and cost of six mana what I could have done with 1 Lightning Bolt on turn 1 for 1 mana.

If I wait until turn 10, I can deal 7 damage for 6 mana and 10 turns. If I wait until turn 23 I can deal 20 damage.

All this is ignoring the fact that my opponant has had enough time to win three or four games and likely has drawn something to kill the enchantment.

Edit: My point was that it gave your opponant all the time in the world to prepare for it and that it isn't efficient. I admit that proliferate does make this card more playable. I am not saying that there is no way to make this work, but that the effort required to do so makes it pointless.
Posted By: pumaman83 (9/11/2011 5:07:04 PM)


Better to play this on your third turn than nothing, but that isn't why I put cards in my decks.
Posted By: RunedServitor (1/18/2012 5:41:32 PM)


Sadly outdone by the amazing Shrine of Burning Rage.
Posted By: NoobOfLore (4/5/2012 3:22:14 PM)


Gatherer works better in the Companion app!