First off, this is an activated ability not a triggered one. And both activated AND triggered abilities do use the stack. You CAN unmake this card and it will be removed from the game normally, you could respond to the player's paying the colorless and sac-ing a critter with unmake, and either unmake the creature or force the player to try to use the ability again.
Posted By:
Dischade
(12/3/2009 3:39:42 AM)
Lost out to the rules changes, but still a resilient creature that will make your opponent pay if he/she keeps trying to get rid of it.
Posted By:
Zulp
(7/16/2010 9:26:52 AM)
B/W is the color of Orshov, the color of Haunt. i.e., you can sacrifice a creature you control with something haunting it to maximize the control instead of waiting for opponent to kill it.
M10 rules kinda damaged the power of this card but it's still really powerful.
Posted By:
Cyberium
(6/3/2010 8:39:36 AM)
So ridiculous with Genesis Chamber.
Posted By:
EternalLurker
(3/2/2011 7:02:15 PM)
Even before "M10 Rule Change"... why would you think that sacrificing himself would remove him from the game and bring him back? I really don't get it, just read the card. "Pay 1 mana. Sacrifice a creature. Remove from the game (etc.)."
What happens before you "Remove from the game"? You sacrifice a creature. What happens when you "Sacrifice creature"? It goes to the graveyard.
I'm glad I never ran into this card before if people really tried Sending the council to the graveyard in an attempt to remove itself from the game.
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or am I totally wrong, in which case a simple, relatively kind explination would be appreciated!
Posted By: Admiral_Ferret
One of the m10 rule changes was that pre-m10 damage went on the stack, now it doesnt. in the past while damage was on the stack you could use his ability before he is dealt the damage but it would still damage the opposing creature. now this is not the case. the rule change had nothing to do with people trying to sacrifi... (see all)
Posted By:
KnexWiz
(8/21/2012 5:02:37 PM)
truely unique card - Great effect, belongs in every black white deck, the only down side is using its effects removes any equipment or enchantments attached (oviously) yet for a good 4/4 creature, i tend to enjoy "beafing them up" Oh well...
4.5/5 :D
Posted By:
Tsuichoi
(5/17/2010 12:51:12 AM)
@Dragonking: You can sacrifice it to its own ability, but the ability won't resolve. The ability only gets put on the stack after payments have made. By that time Ghost Council is in your graveyard, so when the ability triggers it sees that Ghost Council is not a valid target for exiling anymore because it is not on the battlefield and fizzles. The only reason that I can think of for you to want to sacrifice it to itself would be to prevent Control Magic effects. With WB you probably would have the cards to get it back from the graveyard, so that at least prevents your opponent from taking it. Or if you are playing Commander/EDH with this as your commander and you trigger the ability in response to Control Magic, the card can just go to the command zone anyway. Either way, the reasons for doing that are quite limited.
Posted By:
sarroth
(3/25/2011 9:50:03 PM)
Even before "M10 Rule Change"... why would you think that sacrificing himself would remove him from the game and bring him back? I really don't get it, just read the card. "Pay 1 mana. Sacrifice a creature. Remove from the game (etc.)."
What happens before you "Remove from the game"? You sacrifice a creature. What happens when you "Sacrifice creature"? It goes to the graveyard.
I'm glad I never ran into this card before if people really tried Sending the council to the graveyard in an attempt to remove itself from the game.
._.
or am I totally wrong, in which case a simple, relatively kind explination would be appreciated!
Posted By:
Admiral_Ferret
(5/9/2012 1:52:55 PM)
Another reason you might want to sacrifice this to itself, besides avoiding Control Magic, would be if you had a Blood Artist or something similar out. This tactic is currently used sometimes with Falkenrath Aristocrat, whose ability also doesn't resolve when she is sacrificed to herself, but whose death does trigger the Blood Artist.
Posted By:
MarlinFlake
(10/19/2012 9:02:01 AM)
In the right deck, this guy is great. He is a 4/4 for four mana, which is fine. He is nearly unkillable, which is great too, and keeps giving you life and causing life loss for your opponent. He is also a great general for EDH.
Posted By:
majinara
(2/10/2009 4:59:20 PM)