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even by himself with no other chickens or dice rolling cards this one works ok
Posted By: supershawn (3/19/2010 7:57:35 PM)
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It would have to be Errata'd to have the effect you are proposing, smilie.
You are legally permitted to tap permanents that are already tapped as part of an ability that is phrased that way, it would need to read "Tap an untapped chicken you control: roll a six-sided die." to play out the way you suggest.
There's a reason all the new cards that involve tapping things as a cost without the tap symbol specify an "untapped creature."
Posted By: NoobOfLore (2/19/2011 2:41:33 PM)
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"If it's chicken, chicken à la king; if it's fish, fish à la king; if it's turkey, fish à la king."
Posted By: Gelzo (2/19/2012 3:27:13 AM)
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Steel Overseer looks suspiciously like this guy...
Posted By: Kryptnyt (10/15/2010 7:39:10 PM)
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it's not errata'd to tap an untapped chicken? Infinite dice rolls? infinite counters?
Posted By: metalevolence (6/21/2010 12:30:34 AM)
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With all the dice-rolling cards in Unglued, you can get a lot of +1/+1 counters out of the King.
Posted By: A3Kitsune (2/12/2010 11:04:39 AM)
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@phyrexiantrygon - That argument is irrelevant, Garruk's ruling involves a result, which will happen either way, whereas the question we're debating involves cost. If a cost can't be paid, the ability can't be used.

@NoobOfLore, stop living up to ur name :P It's a cost. If you can't pay the cost, you can't get the ability...and you can't tap something that happens to be tapped. If that was the case, everything that triggered when things tap, such as lust for warwould re-trigger if you use something like twiddle on it to tap it if it was already tapped. This doesn't work. Also, I would like to point out we are arguing on unglued cards...something that is only for fun. lol. If you disagree, play it differently around your table. Who cares.
Posted By: Telltalereaper (6/17/2012 10:50:59 PM)
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to metalevolence:
I'm not a rules judge or anything but I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this one --
You can only tap a card that is untapped.
You can only untap a card that is tapped.
Confusion sometimes happens with some abilities that affect a card's tapped/untapped status, particularly Regeneration. Regenerate can be used on a tapped creature because it causes the card to BECOME tapped; tapping is not a COST of the regenerate, it is a side-effect.
So, the cost of the effect is 'Tap a chicken you control'; if you cannot pay the cost, you cannot roll the die.
Posted By: smilie23 (11/25/2010 3:14:23 PM)
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That's because most of MtG players are morons who never have read the rules. You can't now and you've never been able to tap a tapped permanent for a cost.
Posted By: tavaritz (10/10/2011 5:16:02 AM)
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The only card in Magic that is an infinite combo by itself.
Posted By: JL2736 (12/2/2011 5:53:50 PM)
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