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I think all those guys who go nuts over Megrim and Liliana's Caress should really be looking here for their win condition. Playing cards like Megrim and the Caress ensure that you lose tempo with your discard spells, while you neglect to put up a defense against creatures. Discard works better as a way to deny resources to your opponents. Setting up combos with Megrim is too risky.

This card, however, can really put the pressure on as an end-game play. This, and Nyxathid. When their life total is low enough this "option" really isn't one.

Edit...nevermind, I tried it. 2/5
Posted By: JenBroness (11/3/2010 5:41:04 PM)


This card sure is a painful quandary. I wish it was just 1 colorless cheaper.
Posted By: Chrome_Coyote (9/24/2010 3:18:26 PM)


GREAT CARD! This is exactly what black discard needs, good job wizards!
Posted By: Sironos (10/1/2010 1:34:49 PM)


This is painnful. Pack a few Liliana's Caresses and enjoy watching your opponent squirm.
Posted By: NecroticNobody (9/23/2010 6:01:26 PM)


Posted By: ninjaduckie (9/26/2010 1:39:43 AM)


Turn 1: Swamp, 2x Dark Ritual, this.
Posted By: Silverosx (9/26/2010 1:14:17 PM)


About 1000% better than the Urza's Saga classic Oppression.

Really, for those of you talking badly about this card, play with it. Maybe not in standard, but somewhere where 5 cmc is MEANT to be played, like EDH or Prismatic.

This card is STUPID good in any format where it can be played.

And for those of you saying "oh just hold on to lands" here's the problem. You've done that before against mind funeral fine, but you didn't have to chuck a card for every spell. Also, in any format but limited, you usually can't afford NOT to play your lands unless you're running far too many.
Posted By: ChaosFire (1/18/2011 2:14:50 PM)


"I guarantee tears will flow when you play Dash Hopes after they've cast the spell and made their pick."

I'd much rather see my opponents play cards like Dash Hopes and Painful Quandry against me instead of good cards.

@ OmegaSerris:
First off, you're applying your personal opinion to everyone. For many players, "good" and "competitive" are in fact interchangable. Even among kitchen-table gamers, not everyone enjoys the game in the same manner as you do; I know plenty of self-proclaimed "casual" players who love to netdeck, and take their Magic surprisingly seriously. There is variance in the level of competition within any two given casual groups, and as long as everyone involved is in agreement with what's acceptable, there need be no seperation between fun and cut-throat play.

Secondly, I like a more permissive casual environment than what I think you'd expect -- It's not all netdecks and Legacy bling where I play. I simply consider punisher cards, like Painful Quandry, t... (see all)
Posted By: scumbling1 (1/25/2012 8:08:07 PM)


Too expensive
Posted By: chremon (9/24/2010 8:42:51 AM)


I noticed that the card simply says "discard a card", does this mean that the opponent can choose to discard cards that are on the field as well as the cards in his hand?
Posted By: jordandarkmagic (12/9/2011 6:07:32 PM)


Gatherer works better in the Companion app!