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When you draw 20+ cards off of this, most people scoop. If you set this up correctly, this causes bigger blowouts then few other cards. Even if your only drawing 5 or 6 cards, it's generally well worth it because it's just you. Just a solid edh card. The fact that you discard your hand isn't too relevant if you load up your deck with graveyard recursion. If you draw an obscene amount of cards, you will find a way to win.
Posted By: Ligerman30 (12/15/2013 4:34:42 PM)
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A) Yes, this works with Pandemonium effects: Knollspine Dragon enters the battlefield, and both it's own ETB effect and the Pandemonium effect want to trigger. You control them both, so you can put them on the stack in any order. Put the dragon's ability on first, then Pandemonium, so Pandemonium resolves first, dealing damage before the dragon's ability resolves.

B) This card works fine with Kaalia. Kaalia has issues with drawing cards, but when running well can deal a lot of damage. No, putting the dragon into play with Kaalia will probably not draw you cards since it's before combat damage is dealt, but the dragon's ability is a "may" ability: So if you need the card draw, drop something else with Kaalia and cast the dragon in the second main phase, and if you don't need the card draw but really need a beater, then this card still works with Kaalia.

C) @Marsupia: The wording on that ruling is odd, but it in no way means the dragon's ability will let you draw c... (see all)
Posted By: sarroth (2/3/2014 1:51:14 PM)
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