Karplusan Giant (Masters Edition II) - Community - Gatherer

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So this is a 3/3 seven-drop for which i only have to pay (S)(S)(S) each turn to make this creature what it normally should be by default? Awesome.

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Posted By: Mode (11/4/2009 7:25:10 AM)

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uh, it's not that bad, especially for an ice age card. you can pump it to ridiculously enormous sizes. It's an overcosted but larger shade.

although back in ice age you couldn't pump it that much >.< urgh ice age.

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Posted By: metalevolence (1/13/2010 6:28:47 PM)

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I kind of feel bad for this card. There was just no technology or experience at the time to make it good. The way creatures were priced back then was fairly linear with respect ot power/toughness, whereas today things ramp up in power considerably after 4 CMC to make creatures comparable to spells in power.

So if you're a developer in these times of CMC = ~max(P, T). This set will also introduce the largest creature ever, an 11/11 with CMC 11 (with a considerable drawback). You're working on a card with the theme "snow lands make it stronger -- tap one to give it +1/+1". Which means, effectively, that it's CMC is X, and once it attacks its P/T could be P+X+1/T+X+1. Now, find a fair X.

You can't. If you start of with a Hill Giant at 3/3 for CMC 4, you're basically dedicating to have an 8/8 swinging around turn 5. Sooner with moxen, Dark Rituals, and lotuses, though those will of course make it weaker. The fair thing to do is reduce the gap by... (see all)

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Posted By: longwinded (3/19/2012 12:05:53 PM)

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doesnt get much worse then this -5/5

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Posted By: storm_crow4presidnt (4/23/2010 4:22:07 PM)

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I remember when I first started playing, my brother and I thought that it would be great to have this guy... it was so easy to pump him, after all! And he got tougher, too - most red pumping creatures only had Firebreathing!

Of course, this was also back when Scaled Wurm seemed like one of the most bad-ass creatures in existence. I found one of these in one of my boxes recently and cringed at his CMC.

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Posted By: Leshrac_Nightwalker (5/21/2010 12:26:12 PM)

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Obviously terrible, though at the time, nobody had any clue how to price something like this, a mid-sized creature that could become huge. Still, I think 5R would have made a lot more sense when compared to Shivan Dragon, which already existed... sure, it would still be terrible, but not as obviously terrible.

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Posted By: Radagast (9/15/2012 9:58:20 AM)

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@mudbutt_on: If you could go back in time to Ice Age, then sure, this got played a time or two. You have a bunch of snow land (not just mountain or any one kind) and pumped it up for a finisher - nothing great, but you could've done a lot worse. Its viability is practically nil outside of block constructed, sure.

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Posted By: jfre81 (8/5/2011 8:12:47 AM)

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