The flavour text pretty much explains everything this card can do.
Posted By:
SorianSadaskan
(4/24/2010 10:14:25 PM)
use it with a forced fruition to rely mess up there day. I agree with the rely long rants about the "its not for a discard deck", correct me if I'm wrong (as I'v never played not actually even seen one) but it seams like the point is to force your opponent to top deck making any strategy difficult, and so you need to send it fast before there combo would trigger, and this would just slow you Down. but with FF you make them draw to the extreme, witch in some cases people are willing to do if it fuels an important combo. but if that trigers even a turn late, you will usually wind up taking at least 28 damage as no combos take less than 2 cards (as it would then not be a combo) and most take at least 3. in other words, even if you played the first card as the last in your hand, you would still draw 7 and then 14 more for the other 2 dealing 28 at the end of turn. so ya, powerful, but the only obvious card i see it useful with is forced fruition. and so only 3-3.5/5
Posted By:
bijart_dauth
(4/27/2010 7:42:46 PM)
I actually have a deck built around this and Underworld Dreams. Now I know that this card isn't great for a discard deck, but in my deck I only use mass discard spells that also fill up my opponents' hands. I use Wheel of Fortune, Windfall, 4 Wheel and Deal, 4 Urza's Guilt, and Memory Jar (plus 2 Magus of the Jar).
Oh, here's a funny story: I played 2 of these in a 5 player game. The guy right before me played a Standstill hoping to stall for a few turns. I top-decked a Wheel of Fortune and won the game because of the extra cards my opponents drew from the Standstill. Hilarious!!
Posted By:
Wyldblayde
(5/31/2010 10:11:48 PM)
lolz 4 of this with 4 howling mines, jace beleren, and 4 underworld dreams on the field all at the same time 8D
Posted By:
kittyspit
(6/20/2010 5:30:09 PM)
DAMN it, I just bought a playset of these, and then found out Liliana's Caress comes out in M11 and does the same thing for one less mana. Caress will be great in my casual discard deck. T1 Dark Ritual into Hypnotic Specter, T2 Caress, swing for 2 damage, 2 life loss and a discard. Can't wait.
Posted By:
thedarkheathen
(6/21/2010 3:34:49 AM)
Time to reconstruct your Megrim decks, people.
Unless you gain any benefit from dealing damage rather than just letting your opponents lose the life, make sure to exchange your playset for for Liliana's Caress - or simply use both cards :D
Posted By:
Mode
(6/26/2010 5:09:22 PM)
I like it with Blightnings and later Roiling Terrain and Desecrated Earth. Not the best, but it does tend to stack some decent damage ontop of the land destruction. Contaminated Ground also.
Posted By:
n00bmag1
(6/28/2010 7:26:46 AM)
Question... can this effectively be used with mind sludge?? since the words discard are on both? and if so, would it deal 2 damage for each card discarded or only 2 for more than one card discarded? any help would be appreciated... thanks
Posted By:
cressboy90
(7/11/2010 1:06:59 PM)
Posted 6/25/2010
Not strictly worse then Liliana's Caress. This does damage. The other does life loss. Figured I would say that nice and early. Anyway this is about to be severly outshined by the card I just said was not strictly better.
Edit : Posted 7/26/2010
@Nuclear MECCA
You should learn what "Strictly" means before you make that claim.
The ability Bloodthirst makes sure that Liliana's Caress won't be strictly better.
@Paladinbrice69
You're joking right?
Damage and life loss aren't the same thing.
Posted By:
Eved
(7/26/2010 3:37:54 AM)
I usually try this with lore brokers and consult the necrosages, then a few specters just to round things out.
Posted By:
circu196
(8/20/2010 12:32:41 AM)