I still haven't had someone lay this out once and for all for me: say you have a Megrim out, and you play a spell that forces your opponent to discard 2 cards, does Megrim deal 2 damage for the instance of a card being discarded, or 4 damage for 2 for each card discarded?
Posted By:
BatChew
(8/20/2010 9:03:34 PM)
I doubt it A3Kitune beause it says that player and the planeswalker doesn't do the disarding but I may be very wrong.
Posted By:
Jamesb8
(9/5/2010 11:33:52 PM)
@JasonC Underworld Dreams is good as well
Posted By:
NARFNra
(11/9/2010 7:18:07 PM)
Does this count per each card or just each time they have to discard?
for example would Mind Rot hit them for 2 damage or 4?
Posted By:
bladeofgrass7
(1/12/2011 3:53:18 PM)
@bladeofgrass7: judging by the ruling from Liliana's Caress, mind rot would hit them for two for each card discarded. I say this because if they had one card left in hand and you mind rotted them, they could only discard one, therefore they would only take two. If two cards were discarded, they would take a total of four, but it would have been from taking two twice (won't work with Pain magnification alone).
@BatChew and cressboy: a little late, but my response to bladeofgrass should answer yours as well.
@Jamesb8: Your opponent discards the cards and as a result, Megrim deals the damage to him/her. However, since Planeswalker rules state that when an spell or ability of yours would deal damage to an opponent, you may have it deal damage to a Planeswalker the opponent controls instead.
My opinion on the Megrim vs Liliana's Caress is that it depends on what deck you're running. If you running bloodthirst in your deck, then definitely go for the Megrim. Otherwise, go for the Liliana'... (see all)
Posted By:
RaginTiger
(2/17/2011 7:50:09 AM)
lilliana's caress... unless you're using an effect that uses damage boosters, is better in my opinion but we've all got our reasons...
I'd run this with it in a mono-black discard...
4 & 4
just to be cheesey...
BUT!!! 2 big notes I have to make
a big note to people playing a discard deck is that it's very difficult to make a multiplayer discard deck... & especially harder to make it work or win... my advice is to run a discard deck in 1 on 1s unless you're really intelligent & confident... people hate discarding... it puts a ginormous target on your head to pull this in a multi...
Note #2 a discard deck only works if your opponent has cards to discard... too many times have I sat across from a smug grin as my opponent plays creatures & goes well... no cards in my hand... try Howling mines & font of mythos for that
last suggestion I have to make is running this with the rack... skip the thought of ... (see all)
Posted By:
Shinigami-2099
(3/12/2011 6:50:40 PM)
Not bad, but I find just beating someone with discard until their eyes bleed is good enough on its own. Once you have someone to the point where you stop worrying about keeping their hand empty and start trying to kill them, they're thoroughly and completely screwed anyway.
Posted By:
Angry_Puppy
(4/29/2011 5:19:51 PM)
The best way I've seen someone play this card is to play it in conjunction with underworld dreams, howling mine, and font of mythos. Unfortunately it ruins every single game when your opponent has everything down by turn 4.
Posted By:
Fenizrael
(8/13/2011 8:59:55 PM)
@Jamesb8:
"...Other sources can deal damage to planeswalkers. If a spell or ability you control would deal damage to an opponent, you may have it deal that damage to a planeswalker that opponent controls instead. So while you can't target a planeswalker with a Shock, you can have a Shock that targets your opponent deal 2 damage to one of his or her planeswalkers instead of to the player..."
From WOTC's planeswalker rules page.
This can hit a planeswalker.
Posted By:
MacBizzle
(9/30/2011 9:03:00 PM)
This can be useful if you have something that triggers when someone takes damage, and Liliana's Caress just won't do.
Posted By:
RunedServitor
(1/23/2012 1:56:07 PM)