Why this was banned in commander is beyond me. Meanwhile, Consecrated Sphix (Draw 40 cards for 5 mana in a multiplayer game), Cyclonic rift (Overload: win the game, no matter how far behind you are), Deadeye Navigator, Omniscience, Palinchron, Mana Drain, and more are easily more broken and all blue! Clearly, whoever makes the commander ban decisions plays blue and doesn't like fairly losing when other colors have a chance. Furthermore, I believe the real reason Sylvan Primordial was banned was due it's abuse by Rites of Replication, which, suprise, suprise, is also blue. Rites of Replication has an enormously larger impact on an otherwise balanced game state than Sylvan Primordial ever did, especially when it copies Terastadon, Acidic Slime, or any other number of "enter the battlefield"-ability creatures.
@cha0sc0w you're right, it does destroy each player's best (arguable, since it's noncreature) permanent, that's called removal, for which green has far and away the fewest option... (see all)
Posted By:
hypa_dude
(4/1/2014 12:31:14 AM)
Banned in EDH. But blue players get to keep their Rite of Replications and Deadeye Navigators? Seriously, are those guys high or something?
Guess I'll have to be content flickering Tyrant of Discord all day now, because it's not as if that card is broken with Deadeye since they didn't ban it.
Posted By:
GrimjawxRULES
(2/3/2014 6:36:20 AM)
I remember that this was the last primordial spoiled. before it came out (and the other 4 were), I predicted that it would have a "destroy noncreature permanent", but I did not expect the big body and the forest ramping (and expected trample instead of reach) because I thought that popping any noncreature permanents would already be pushing the power level.
lol
With the banning of primeval titan in EDH, I believe this is the premiere creature in the format. It's hard to go wrong with a card that both is removal and ramp. It's fairly balanced for 1v1, but when you have 2+ opponents it gets ridiculous. For example, suppose it's a simple 3-way FFA, everyone is at 6 lands and there are no other noncreature permanents in play. You hit your 7th, drop him, you pop two lands and get two forests. Suddenly both of your opponents are at 5 lands and you are at 9, so you have nearly double their lands each. That's already extremely powerful, and that's at the low end of potential power. Imagine a... (see all)
Posted By:
mdakw576
(2/3/2014 4:27:59 AM)
This won't get banned in EDH, are you kidding? The only reason Primeval Titan got banned was because his effect was EVERY turn for ANY two lands. That was broken. At best, this is just "I get Stomping Ground, Breeding Pool, and Overgrown Tomb, and you each lose a mana rock"
Posted By:
pedrodyl
(1/27/2013 10:19:59 AM)
EDH ban incoming.
Posted By:
MANABURNWASGOOD
(1/25/2013 7:15:30 AM)
Not sure why this makes forests, but who cares. Sweet EDH card is sweet.
Posted By:
.Blaze.
(1/24/2013 6:34:11 PM)
the le reddit r/mtg army and its leejun hates this card! 5 stars if you agree!
Posted By:
hot4boys
(1/22/2013 10:54:08 PM)
Glad they finally banned this card. If the temps were mandatory I would agree that the tempt would be better than this, but it isn't mandatory so only extremely desperate or people who haven't played against it before will take it, and it is just strong if only one other person takes the tempt.
The only card out of the ones listed that need to be banned are sol ring and mana crypt (haven't seen one in real live play but it is even more degenerative than sol ring, put only off by its price)
Every other card you listed has to really be broken with a combo and are near useless without them, this card however combo's by just running green and vindicates the best non-creature permanent each opponent controls. Terastadon was considered good, balanced and used fairly often when it came out and it gives them something back for the destruction. This they get nothing AND you ramp and you usually blow up more permanents than with terastadon.
If you can't deal with rite of replication/omniscie... (see all)
Posted By:
cha0sc0w
(2/4/2014 5:33:44 PM)
hooray for landfall-edh.dec
Posted By:
PastProphet
(1/27/2013 10:32:37 AM)
I made an account just to comment on this card. It has far too great of an impact and is degenerate to healthy games. (Talking Edh here) This one card alone is a 7 for 1. It does too much when it comes out early. And then people start cloning it. So what usually happens is that if someone has a slow start, they get knocked completely out of the game by lands. I can't believe they'd ban primeval titan and replace it with this monstrosity. At least prime time never shot anyone's lands.
With that being said, this guy is one of my favorite creatures. Here are my favorite ways to abuse it by color:
Green: simply ramp and play it early. For consistency, use green sun's zenith, chord of calling, birthing pod and tooth and nail. If you feel like cheating, tap that elvish piper, or sac the dryad arbor or wood elves to natural order and proceed to win. Mono green als... (see all)
Posted By:
TehPeoplesChamp
(12/30/2013 7:45:02 PM)