The second ability is worded a bit strange. It also says "return Tymaret" not "return Tymaret, the Murder King" which made me think it referenced another card named Tymaret.
Posted By:
Maegnus
(9/23/2013 8:46:40 AM)
Yes he can be used to sac himself to return himself to your hand due to the rule:
112.6k An ability whose cost or effect specifies that it moves the object it's on out of a particular zone functions only in that zone, unless that ability's trigger condition, or a previous part of that ability's cost or effect, specifies that the object is put into that zone.
Example: Reassembling Skeleton says "{1}{B}: Return Reassembling Skeleton from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped." A player may activate this ability only if Reassembling Skeleton is in his or her graveyard.
SO, it says UNLESS that ability's trigger condition OR A PREVIOUS PART OF THAT ABILITIES COST or effect specifies that the OBJECT IS PUT INTO THAT ZONE.
His cost for returning himself from the graveyard to your hand is the sacrificing of a creature (himself) which puts that creature(himself) into the zone PRIOR to the ability trigger.
Posted By:
Palantin
(9/25/2013 9:34:49 PM)
So I'm thinking of giving this guy infect......
Posted By:
Madarakita
(9/29/2013 6:42:03 AM)
I don't know what everyone's got with the wording... still works fine with Necrotic Ooze
Posted By:
Exilyth
(9/29/2013 10:16:15 AM)
I kinda wish both of his abilities were either more flexible (creature OR player, return to battlefield) or cheaper (one black/one red) just so he could make some sweet RB suicide deck awesome in Standard.
Posted By:
7he7rooper
(9/29/2013 11:24:59 AM)
Murder? He's CLEARLY just getting ready to play a game of sixteenth-century Dodgeball.
Posted By:
SpaceMagic
(10/3/2013 9:31:22 PM)
Grim Lavamancer for Rakdos aggro.
Posted By:
Rasta_Viking29
(10/4/2013 4:01:32 PM)
The Wizards Theros FAQ says his second ability can only be activated if he's in the graveyard.
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg%2Ffaq%2Fths
But it seems strange to me. I wonder why they didn't explicitly say that on the card.
Posted By:
JimmyNoobPlayer
(10/7/2013 10:45:13 AM)
Used a Tainted Strike and Gratuitous Violence to win EDH. Was called several unsavory names as a result.
For those that care, the deck is r/u/b with Lord of Tresserhorn general and a Rooftop Storm + Diregraf Captain + Gravecrawler + Grimgrin, Corpse-Born synergy going on.
Posted By:
Twilyte
(10/8/2013 3:30:32 AM)
Now this is a difficult to deal with threat. Abuse with creatures that have dies/leaves the battlefield effects and cards like Gutter Grime and Blood Artist. Can bring himself back at little cost in a correctly constructed deck.
Posted By:
docstorm
(10/11/2013 10:31:52 PM)