I don't know, this plus Witches' Eye seems like it would have some merit, especially in draft.
Posted By:
Kr-azi
(2/7/2014 1:35:42 PM)
"We'll keep printing riffs on Dark Confidant until we regret it!"
- Wizards
Posted By:
Goatllama
(1/29/2014 8:48:30 PM)
Phenax, God of Deception allow the seer to tap without entering combat. Another choice would be Reconnaissance, take the seer right out the the battle and untag.
Posted By:
Cyberium
(1/28/2014 10:30:48 PM)
Those are dead people dangling from the ceiling O.o
Posted By:
shotoku64
(3/1/2014 5:42:57 PM)
Does dis Bob got the booty?
He dooooooooo!
Certainly inferior to the original, as it is very conditional, but on the other hand it does survive more than a */1 would. While he won't be better than The Great One, this is pretty good in standard at least. Any card that needs another card to work is going to be inconsistent. Bob works just fine alone while this guy needs other cards that can capitalize on his ability in order to function.
The thing about Bob is that he changes the curve of an entire deck. Usually he is played with a lot of CMC 1-3, possibly a few 4-5 and nothing above 5 CMC. The draw he provides allows a player to make their land drops more consistently and with fewer cards than would otherwise be required. This means that a deck with 4 Dark Confidant can expect to be able to play more spells in the deck, increasing the utility of said deck. Because you don't have to run so many lands, you can squeeze more power out of each hand. The life loss is irrelevant unless y... (see all)
Posted By:
Drewskithelegend
(2/9/2014 4:40:37 PM)
The life cycle of cards like this is fascinating, much like Duskmantle Seer. They start at a million dollars based upon speculation, then plummet to close to a buck.
Duskmantle's drawback that forced him out of many decks was both his higher mana cost and the need for blue mana splashed.
Pain Seer's issue isn't that he's "OMG! TERRIBLE!", it's more that he's best suited for decks that can utilize him. Mono black doesn't need this card, not with Pack Rat.
At Friday night magic, I played against a beautiful Orzhov enchantment deck that brutalized and finished undefeated. It had 4 Brimaz Cat Soldiers, 4 Pain Seers, 4 Eidolon of Countless Battles, 4 Ethereal Armor, 4 God's Willing, 4 Gift of Orzhova, 4 Orzhov Charms, 4 Dark Favor, etc. Nothing in the deck cost above 3 mana and had a good mixture of positive life loss abilities and life gain.
Pain Seer was brutal in this deck, as the mana curve and power ability was strong enough, but getting an extra draw each turn was too much to ... (see all)
Posted By:
Okeemn
(2/21/2014 11:41:59 AM)
This deserves the price for being the most overhyped card in the set.
Will be fun seeing all the people trying to get him to work while I will just kill them by playing better and bigger stuff.
Will be a bear in black aggro decks should they arise but dont get your hopes up. Not while Mono-Black Devotion and UW Control are the kings.
All the talk is about Standard obviously.
Posted By:
Galerion
(1/29/2014 1:27:34 PM)
Don't worry Pain Seer, I like you more than bob because I can twiddle and hidden strings you for more cards then bob would ever give me. The fact that there are so many good tap cards at instant speed in this set is great too, like Claim of Erebos, or go bug and use prophet of kruphix with Claim. Throw in Kiora's Follower as well.
Can we call this guy Bill, who is not bob but still broke as shit?
Posted By:
Rifts980
(2/4/2014 7:36:20 PM)
I think this is obviously not as powerful as Dark Confidant, but the internet chatter is severely undervaluing it. I can imagine this being moderately powerful (especially in EDH where you can take full advantage of untapping shenanigans).
Posted By:
MrMonday
(1/28/2014 3:55:08 PM)
Bob this is not, and likely will not be a 8 dollar card for long, if you pull it, get rid of them immediately >.>
In standard, this may see fringe play, but a 2/2 for 2 isn't terribly special, and that ability is way to situational to be of any consequence
2/5 Stars
Posted By:
Hunter06
(1/28/2014 3:50:52 PM)