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Funny oracle--"you can't back up"
Posted By:
patronofthesound
(3/8/2013 2:31:37 PM)
I really should know this, but I'm doubting myself here. So here goes:
These abilities both trigger during your upkeep. Since you control both, you can choose to stack them any way you want. So, you choose to have the counter-adding ability resolve after the sacc'ing ability. This way, you save yourself one permanent every turn. Am I right?
Posted By:
The_Murderauder
(6/27/2013 5:14:41 PM)
Note the artwork. The gears on the smokestack are the same as the Urza's Saga set symbol.
Posted By:
Bouchart
(8/6/2013 2:02:02 PM)
Descent into Madness is trying too hard to be this card. The fact that the permanents get exiled may look like it balances the fact that the mana cost went up, plus the color restriction, but it doesn't help that the sacrifice effect happens on only your turn. I miss Urza's block; I'm glad i grew up with that.
Posted By:
raptorman333
(9/6/2013 10:22:02 AM)
"Without anything but stack knowledge, you get a:
2 Turns: 1-for-1
3 Turns: 3-for-2
4 Turns: 6-for-3
5 Turns: 10-for-7" - blurrymadness
Close... it's actually:
1 Turn: 0-for-0 (the turn Smokestack was cast... no counters on opponent's turn)
2 Turns: 1-for-0 (sac 0 on your turn for a total of 0, add a counter... opponent sacs 1 for a total of 1)
3 Turns: 3-for-1 (sac 1 on your turn for a total of 1, add a counter... opponent sacs 2 for a total of 3)
4 Turns: 6-for-3 (sac 2 on your turn for a total of 3, add a counter... opponent sacs 3 for a total of 6)
5 Turns: 10-for-7 (sac 3 on your turn for a total of 6, add a counter... opponent sacs 4 for a total of 10)
But as you've mentionned, this is Smokestack without any synergies... Smokestack is usually played with a deck that synergizes with it (lots of permanents, recursion, counter manipulation) making Smokestack absolutely devastating to the opponent. While he's sacrificing creatures or land, you're sacrificing things like autocard... (see all)
Posted By:
Kragash
(9/23/2013 9:13:43 AM)
Kargash has corrected my old comment; and I've come back to mention the fun flavor of this card: Pollution! It not only pollutes everyone, but it pollutes them "equally." Further, if you manage your pollution you can live with it; or you can just let it go crazy until everything has been destroyed.
Fun stuff :)
Posted By:
blurrymadness
(2/14/2014 2:55:44 PM)